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frotaur 8 hours ago

The huggingface incident was reviewed by independent researchers, which explicitely declined any payment from OpenAI tonpreserve their integrity. They work for non-profits concerned with AI safety.

They claim that what happened was very much not because they were 'carefully engineered and instructed to do those things'.

Similarly, some wikis which were hijacked by agent to be used as messageboard were actually not disclosed by OpenAI (probably trying to conceal, as website showed likely activity from OpenAI researchers visiting the site after the incident) and discovered independently.

I don't know how you can claim that this was still on purpose by OpenAI as some sort of publicity stunt.

Rapzid 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think most people are insinuating negligence rather malace..

> ...reviewed by independent researchers...

Why would a company with more capital than God bring in three randos if there was any chance evidence of their culpability could be found?

That entire thing reads like a very controlled PR stunt, and I do not believe any further conclusions can be drawn from it.

gildenFish 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What facts would lead you to revise your conclusion?

jeanlucas 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

The data to be open, in my case.

The "independent" METR that is composed by... Checks notes... Previously employees from the top labs.

sensanaty 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Isn't the guy that started METR an ex-OAI employee? They're all from the same lesswrong circle at the very least, most of them have legitimate AI psychosis where they think they're bringing up their new machine God.

antoni4040 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is something extra to this. The fact that a lot of people in the AI world suffer from psychosis. They can sincerely believe that they are building God and lie about it's capabilities for their investors at the same time.

ranguna 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Source?

xadhominemx 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Easy to find yourself in literally 15 seconds.

dwaltrip 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

https://metr.org/blog/2026-08-26-openai-hugging-face-inciden...

jrflowers 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>was reviewed by independent researchers

That called it a slopvestigation due to how much they had to rely on LLMs for the whole thing

https://andrewwu.substack.com/p/the-slop-vestigation-and-eth...

Edit: Does everybody else get no results when searching for ‘slopvestigation’ on here? I know for a fact that I read a long thread where it was used repeatedly here not too long ago

derpyzza 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

doesn't show up for me either

Ylpertnodi 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

'Slopping': when you have to buy something you know is poor quality, but if it works...

fragmede 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Because they have a need to believe they're smarter than everyone else in the room, and that the world must be orchestrated, this can't all be random chance.