I personally believe that the AI needs human like traits to achieve real discovery and that is where AI companies will push this technology and that is where we have no idea what happens

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holgerschurig 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Human traits?

The AI will be a cruel as humans.

Just yesterday news and TV was full of what happened at 9/11, something that was truly horrible.

I'm from Germany, and why 3 to 4 generations ago happened here was truly horrible.

All was done by extremists, thought.

But... just the other day I read https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikanische_Besetzung_Haitis about the US occupation of Haiti. And that was done by a government that claimed to be not extremist and even democratic. Way more people died there than even in 9/11. And it had almost all the things happening as they happened in the 3rd Reich: Racism, looking down at others, concentration camps, torture, forced labor till death, killing family members (what we call "Sippenhaft"). Something between 3500 and 15000 people were killed by US troops. That's still low compared to what 3rd Reich Germany did ... but quantity is not the issue when we talk about traits, quality is.

So the same "human traits" made US troops do cruel things as they made Germany extremists do cruel things. So we must conclude that they aren't all good. And therefore not all desirable.

Fun thing: this is known since a loooooong time. About 2000 years ago a religious leader (that gets way more followers in the US than in Germany) said "There is no good one, not even one".

And even today people act like humanity is inherently good. No, it isn't. If we were, then anarchism or communism would actually work and really give some kind of paradise on earth.

Human traits are bad training material.

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egeozcan 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The bad traits are from other, bad humans. We, the good humans, can obviously select the best traits that a good human should have, to give the agents.

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chadgpt3 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A not so well known fact: Hitler visited America and it was the American solutions to the Native American problem that inspired Hitler's solutions to the Jew problem. He just executed them more efficiently (pun accepted).

	▲	evilfred 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		this is way too overblown and deterministic a view. US history was one of many inspirations.
	▲	graemep 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I thought it was the Turkish genocide of the Armenians? Hitler was also inspired by Sparta, maybe other societies too.