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drTobiasFunke 2 hours ago

Really? My employer rolled back to opus 4.8 because 5 was expensive AND crap. Didnt even consider fable because it didn’t add any additional value.

For most software eng and design work opus 4.6-4.8 just works fine. For everyday joe asking ai to plan a trip or home diy work even sonnet works fine.

Any cybersecurity or other areas are niches that cannot support trillion $ valuations. What am I missing? Genuinely curious

lukan an hour ago | parent | next [-]

No idea what you are missing and yes, Opus is quite solid, but Fable is clearly way better for me.

I just did a direct comparison, big change in a quite complex codebase. Same prompt for Opus, same for Fable. Fable clearly won and delivered very good results, while Opus delivered mediocre, so I did not let it finish. I expected both to fail and was prepared to do lots of manual steering, but not necessary with Fable one shotting it, and all this with 35$ of credits for fable. I am still impressed. If I would have had to hire a human, it would have cost me thousands of dollar for the same task - and a way longer time. So maybe the valuations are overblown, but they clearly provide value for me.

bpodgursky 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If Fable doesn't add additional value in your workplace, it means you aren't being ambitious enough in how you integrate agents into your workstream.

Yes, it's probably comparable to 4.8 if you are just using it to write code and put up a couple pull requests. That's not where things are now.

nradov an hour ago | parent | next [-]

You shouldn't be down voted, AI native companies have already moved up to the next level beyond writing individual PRs.

bix6 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And where are things now?

nozzlegear 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

This is just "you're holding it wrong" with a little smooch of condescension. If only we plebeians could comprehend what magnificent works those who have ambitiously integrated agents into the workstream have wrought!

plorkyeran 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Sometimes you actually are holding it wrong. It's pretty reasonable to think that Fable isn't worth the massive increase in cost, but if you think it outright doesn't have any benefits over Opus 4.8 then your workflow is probably not making good use of the tools.

nozzlegear a minute ago | parent [-]

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bpodgursky 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean it's very easy to comprehend and you don't need me for it.

Just download claude code or codex and ask it to give suggestions about where to integrate agents into your workstream.

nozzlegear 2 minutes ago | parent [-]

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