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m4rtink 2 days ago

Panopticon to the rescue - seriously ???

People just dont vadalize stuff - there are reasons for that that need to be fixed, not adding even more spying.

Arainach a day ago | parent [-]

Among the reasons are that kids (and some adults) are idiots. That's it, it's not income inequality or rage at the system, some people just break things because they think it's funny. That's not something you can fix, so you have to guard against it in other ways.

m4rtink a day ago | parent [-]

Is't that just bad education or parenting in the end ? I don t think many people with good parents & education would be essentially insane to break thinks just for fun.

In general, I think you kinda need to fix people rather than make the environment basically so hostile to everyone, to prevent a small group of people from breaking it. Not saying its easy, but in my the only correct way.

Arainach a day ago | parent [-]

I don't agree with your claim, but assuming you're right: Do you think that trying to solve "bad parenting" is less intrusive than cameras in robotaxis?

m4rtink 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I hope so, but at the same time - I'm not sure how to best do it without ending up with some different authoritative issues.

Like, in general, you kinda want people to be good parent so their children end up as decent humans (that for example don't vandalize public restrooms for fun). But any direct attempts to control that process, even if well meant, would be rightfully considered a horrendous form of government/societal meddling. So it is definitely hard.

In any case, I think removing as many sources or uncertainty and stress as possible (stable income, affordable housing, no naked corruption visible day by day, etc.) could hopefully have positive outcomes on parenting without direct interference with the process. And I guess a better founded & more prestigious for the teach school system could also help.