> OpenAI / Anthropic models have largely stopped advancing

Have they? That seems like quite a claim given the last 6 months, particularly for cybersecurity.

The attention is shifting towards RL, harnesses, and memory systems from the pretrains of more intelligent and capable base models. So extracting additional capabilities from what we already have.

That is a much easier catch up game. GLM 5.3 and DeepSeek flash 4.1 also demonstrate significant jump in cyber capabilities. So yeah, it is a slowdown in the place where it matters. RL has been around for ages, there's no moat there if you already have a good enough pretrain.

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nicce 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Many claims but no clear evidence that they actually find significantly more severe issues compared to open models.

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echelon 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Open models and agents can't be trusted without handholding. Astra can one-shot six months of work. Years of work, even.

OpenAI just solved Navier-Stokes.

Seems like the US is on a takeoff ramp to me.

	▲	glub 6 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Tell me you haven't tried letting Astra go without telling me. Astra can confidently one-shot 500k lines of slop, with 800k lines of tests covering it, without testing a single intended product requirement, and none of it actually working. All models require hand holding. Fable and Astra are no exceptions. The difference is only in the amount of hand holding required, and there's essentially no gap here anymore between American and Chinese models. I only use Chinese models sparingly because American models are so much cheaper with subscriptions, that it doesn't make economic sense to not use them. If/when that changes, I could simply route to cheapest model that's available at the moment and I wouldn't notice much difference in most applications.
	▲	simianwords 6 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Here are the cope points 1. Navier Stokes was plagiarism 2. All benchmarks were misleading wrong and incorrect 3. All other mathematical advances were again hype 4. HF incident was marketting ploy jointly coordinated by HF, METR and OpenAI (and also Anthropic) 5. Anthropic's HF like incident was again a marketing ploy [1] Nothing ever happens. This whole thing is a scam. Everything is done to fool you and you have fallen for it. Congrats. [1] https://www.anthropic.com/research/investigating-incidents-c...