| ▲ | 129857 10 hours ago |
| MSFT is good, they said when it bought GitHub. MSFT is a reformed company and supports open source, they said. Then MSFT stole all IP from GitHub and made it worse and fired developers. Amodei does not care in the slightest about ruining software development and making people unemployed. Maybe he cares about bio-weapons because those could kill him, too. That is it. If he were an idealist, he wouldn't steal (literally via torrents) all human IP and sloppify the whole Internet with Claude output. He'd close down Anthropic instead. He is a greedy, ruthless person. |
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| ▲ | kalkin 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| If Anthropic shut down (or even counterfactually had never been founded), would software development be freed from the impact of AI? |
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| ▲ | largbae 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | Probably not, but we wouldn't have to listen to Dario's hypocrisy while it happened | | |
| ▲ | 0xDEAFBEAD 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | How specifically is Dario a hypocrite? 129857's case rests on Dario being an "idealist". But maybe he's an idealist about curing cancer ASAP, and not an idealist about respecting copyright. That's not necessarily hypocritical. | | |
| ▲ | largbae 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Multiple ways, starting from working to create the very situation he claims to fear. Since you mentioned intellectual property, how about the hypocrisy of sucking in the intellectual property of humankind for AI training, but claiming it is unfair to use the results of this IP theft for AI training? | |
| ▲ | Matl 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | For example he got into a spat with the Department of War as if he cared for how his AI could be used during war and yet said he's fine with Claude targeting a girl's school in Iran. That's apart from the general fact that he continues to race towards the very thing he claims he's afraid of, because that's where his net worth comes from. | | |
| ▲ | 0xDEAFBEAD 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | >said he's fine with Claude targeting a girl's school in Iran Where? | | |
| ▲ | 8note 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | i dont think he said it in those words, but the acceptable terms of use is that humans stay in the loop for picking targets. so, claude suggesting killing a bunch of children, and then hegsdeth approving the strikes is perfectly acceptable. claude putting a bomb in a girls school, and then lying to an operator that it actually gives ice cream an cookies, and the operator clicka the button would also be acceptable? |
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| ▲ | qw125 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | nunez 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Giving credit where credit is due, I believe Dario and his squad formed Anthropic because he and Altman couldn't align on safety. The only way to build models like the Claude series is to play dirty and train on LITERALLY ALL the data. Something something Pandora's Box Torment Nexus... |
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| ▲ | 8note 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | i dont think thats particularly worthy of credit? somebody actually invested and trustworthy wouldnt be skirting people's rights to make a killer robot. we havent written it down, but from how everyone reacts, you need permission to train and do inference based on somebody's work. its a right |
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