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Sebguer an hour ago

Incredibly disappointing just how many comments are making fun of the site for not handling the traffic, and saying that "they should have just used Cloudflare". Would Cloudflare caching the site have helped? Maybe/probably, but the user's point (visible on the github mirror https://github.com/jiakaiBot/deCloudflare/blob/89983e1501dbb...) has nothing to do with availability and everything to do with Cloudflare's position as a gatekeeper on the internet.

People who have been around for awhile should probably remember the days when every DDoS site on the internet was hosted behind Cloudflare and CF was notoriously slow about responding to abuse complaints or helping them get to the actual hosts on the other side. Or when Matthew went on a whole thing about how he had a moral obligation to provide services to literal nazis.

llm_nerd an hour ago | parent [-]

> Incredibly disappointing just how many comments are making fun of the site for not handling the traffic

Why? It's a deserved, obvious observation. If you're advocating a position but then demonstrate exactly the thing that counters your position, isn't that a worthwhile point? Of course everyone is going to point it out.

An HN front page simply isn't much traffic at all. It really isn't. The fact that so many sites still fall over is simply crazy in 2026. I don't even know how it's possible this is still such an issue. A Raspberry Pi 5 can host an HNing.

The site finally loaded for me, and seriously publishing content is such a ridiculous pattern. It's actually kind of funny that the whole site is falling over because someone decided to publish an opinion in a README, instead of putting it on an infinitely more appropriate static host (which can be built from that git).

Sebguer 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

yeah i guess if you can't read and pretend they're trying to make a completely different point, then this all makes sense. i kind of expect most people on HN to be literate tho

llm_nerd 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

Ah yes, I'm totally illiterate. You got me. I mean, if you didn't get everyone with the hilarious pearl clutching as you holier than thou'd everyone, the comical insults should really put it over the top.

Thanks for reminding me to flag the submission, though.

devmor an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

In what way does their lack of traffic resilience demonstrate a counter to their position? Their position is not that load balancers and edge nodes are bad.

If I say I hate oversized trucks because one ran me over, my position is not countered by needing someone to deliver my couch.

llm_nerd an hour ago | parent [-]

> In what way does their lack of traffic resilience demonstrate a counter to their position?

When 99.999% of sites utilize Cloudflare for "traffic resilience", as a caching facade that even happens to be geolocated to clients for even more benefit, falling over on exactly that issue kind of obliterates the sales pitch. Every single reasonable person on the planet sees that.

It looks farcically silly, regardless of whatever points it makes or however much I agree with them (yes, CF centralization is bad, it's a company with a mixed history and a lot of bad, it basically has a monopoly now, etc). And yes, there are other CDNs and load balancers and solutions. But presumably someone pushing a position on this has the problem solved beforehand, no?

As to your poor analogy, it's more akin to saying that you hate trucks while trying to drag a couch seven miles from the store.