| ▲ | mitxela 3 hours ago |
| We chose this and we're still choosing it right now. |
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| ▲ | encomiast 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| This does seem to be the result of human activity. But I'm not really sure how the words 'we' and 'choose' work in a sentence like that. The collective of humanity doesn't really make choices the way I understand that word. And, while individual citizens make choices that contribute to this, and business people and politicians make choices that prioritize the short-term over the long term, it's not really correct to say they prefer and therefor choose the climate change. It seems like we don't have a good vocabulary for talking about the cumulative results of small choices. |
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| ▲ | latexr 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I get what you’re saying, but that doesn’t seem helpful. We don’t need to discuss better words to describe the intricacies of the situation, we need to do something about it. It also doesn’t help to keep saying “this does seem to be the result of human activity”. “Seems to be”? It is, the science has been clear on that for a long time. But even if it wasn’t our fault, it would still be our responsibility to fix it. Because, you know, we live on the planet. If I’m inside a house and it catches on fire, I’m not going to kick back on the sofa and not do anything because I didn’t start the fire. If it started because a group of idiots decided to launch fireworks inside, I’m not going to argue semantics about who exactly thought it was a good idea and who didn’t—the fucking house is on fire—what we need is for everyone to work together right now to put it out. | | |
| ▲ | snohobro an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Ok, so what are YOU doing about it? If YOU are apart of WE, then please tell me how you’re fixing climate change? To the other posters points, this language does make it more difficult to process. If I’m a carpenter ant eating away at this house, just like all other carpenter ants in the group, and I recognize that continued eating will collapse the house and kill all of us, what can I, a singular ant, do to stop everyone from munching away? I can say “we the ants must stop eating this house.” They just keep on eating. It’s not helpful. | |
| ▲ | encomiast 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The problem is that saying "we need to do something" is equally unhelpful because "we" isn't a thing that takes action in any ordinary sense of the word. You are just putting words together in a syntactically correct order that are devoid of actionable meaning. The way this sentence is normally interpreted is, somebody needs to do something, but it's not clear who that somebody is, or what power they need in order to act on a large enough scale to be effective. If you can't say with any clarity what action needs to take place and by whom, then you aren't really contributing to a solution. Reacting to a fire in a house is much easier because it is clear how individual action can help. For example: you can call the fire department, I can get a fire extinguisher. Notice the word "we" is not in those sentences. | | |
| ▲ | 2358452 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | A very significant change everyone can make is to consume more plants and less animal products. Diet is one the most impactful changes one can make individually. See here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-024-02084-1 Second, if you live in a cold country, improve your house heating efficiency and/or switch to heat pumps. Third, consider a more efficient method of transportation, like bikes, walking, eletric vehicles, public transit, etc.. (bikes, walking and transit have the benefit of also being very good for our health) Fourth, vote for politicians aware of the issues and enacting changes. There's a lot everyone can make individually and collectively :) --- Important to mention: if you're going to adopt a plant-based diet, there are a few things you need to supplement, for the most part vitamin B12, maybe Omega-3 and others, and you do need to make sure you're getting necessary nutrients from a variety of plants (for example, walnuts and chia seeds also contain Omega-3). There are many resources online with dietary guides. | | |
| ▲ | lotsofpulp an hour ago | parent [-] | | >Second, if you live in a cold country, improve your house heating efficiency and/or switch to heat pumps. Almost everything is inconsequential compared to living in a (detached) house. The detached house increases consumption of all kinds by orders of magnitude due to greatly increasing the distance everything moves to and around the house. |
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| ▲ | alangibson 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Agree. It's been my position for a while that we've de facto decided to do nothing to prevent warming and we'll just live with the consequences. |
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| ▲ | kpil 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The CMIP7 scenarios were just released. AR7 is not yet completed but it's the input for it. The "worst" RCP8.5 / SSP5-8.5-style futures (coal-dominated, ~4.4–4.9 °C) are no longer treated as plausible given policy already in place, renewable cost declines, and observed emissions. The policy changes have changed the projections. Warming will continue, yes. The consequences will have to be dealt with. In some regions this will be problematic. It's still political and economical factors that determines the outcome. It's worth noting that there is a fair amount of eschatology or even apocalypticism going on. It's built into the human mind somehow. | | | |
| ▲ | tito 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've decided that I'm going to reverse climate change and everyone is welcome to come with me to figure it out. | |
| ▲ | FLeXMurphy 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Strong agree on this. I don't think I could do nothing any harder than I already am. Could you? Could any of us? | | |
| ▲ | an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | [deleted] | |
| ▲ | encomiast 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Some people are clearly doing less nothing: there are activists protesting, formal political action groups, scientists doing research, etc. What isn't as clear is whether any this can actually overcome the huge social and economic structural issues to actually make a dent. | | |
| ▲ | dryd3n 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | When I was initially thinking about my personal impact to this, the first thing that came to mind is air-travel. I don't travel much, maybe once a year to see family. I have some friends who fly several times a year to "see the world", being well-traveled is a part of their personality.
But I think I may be wrong on flight being a significant contribution.
My guess is that we probably all contribute to this mainly through our SP500 index investments, which financially supports a number of companies that directly contribute to global warming. We're "voting with our dollars" as they say. Maybe we can all start picking individual stocks based on environmental values/promises, and less short-term gain. Somehow, I don't think it'll happen. |
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| ▲ | a1exyz 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| i am doing something about it personally with the citizens climate lobby |
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| ▲ | miroljub 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| We? Ever heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles ? |
