When people ask for alternatives, I think they mean a different admin/investor behind the scenes too.

Reddit and HN share the same investors.

Unslop.news is still HN content and users.

Lobsters is like invite-only HN - maybe even more insufferable than this place in that regard.

People want something new, not the same corrupt people like Garry Tan and PG all the time.

I'm sick of YC and HN - they are barely technical and invest only in rich kids from other countries.

I personally want something entirely new - new admins.

ilaksh an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe check out Mastodon, Matrix, (new) Freenet, etc.

	▲	Yizahi 39 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Mastodon's UI is horrible. At least for people who never used Xitter. Why did a new company (at a moment of Mastodon initial release) copied already ancient and by then pointless limitations? Character limit, linear feed, tags in text, no advanced formatting etc. And then there are registration problem (where to register), the retention/safety problem (what if a benevolent admin of your instance nuked your account, now what?), the discovery problem etc. I'm permanently baffled at the decision process of Mastodon developers.
	▲	mschuster91 44 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Mastodon is just as bad, it suffers from the same problem as most of the Fediverse it inspired, admins of large instances bitchfighting with one another and holding their users hostage...

Hard disagree with lobste.rs being worse than HN

	▲	ClaudesGayBro an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Top post there right now is by user maurycy (https://lobste.rs/~maurycy) Also a HN user (https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=maurycy) Same shit