| ▲ | Show HN: Hacker News, Without AI(unslop.news) |
| 196 points by otherayden 2 days ago | 82 comments |
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| ▲ | karim79 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Without AI, using AI to accomplish it's goal. And built using AI. My friends we are in the future. |
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| ▲ | ghrl 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Just what I thought. > made with <3 by Ayden That's the cherry on the cake - indicating genuine effort and attention to detail put into something, yet not even checking the credit at the bottom. | | | |
| ▲ | xtracto 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Can someone make a site to filter HN posts about apps that remove AI in HN? | | |
| ▲ | jayGlow a day ago | parent | next [-] | | this is about the 4th post I've seen today that's some variation of hacker news without AI. Maybe we need a site to aggregate these together, hn but only the hn without AI posts. | |
| ▲ | otherayden 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah unslop.news actually filters these out |
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| ▲ | shoobiedoo 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | So what. The unabomber used a phone sometimes |
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| ▲ | evgenysokov 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is a filter for articles about AI, not articles written by AI. I'd actually use the latter.
As for the "no AI here" badge, people will soon just put it up themselves. Like llms.txt: you add it, and nobody checks. |
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| ▲ | kazinator 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Submissions of articles written by AI should be flagged on the upstream HN, as should be comments written by AI. | | |
| ▲ | lilbigdoot 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Ngl it would be kinda fun for everyone to meme with each other on slop mode in slop threads |
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| ▲ | nilsherzig 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There you go :) https://hnslop.nilsherzig.com/ as an extension so you can continue to comment and use hn as usual | | | |
| ▲ | elif 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | to certain people, it's all one-in-the-same. the real motivations behind this are a kind of existential human narcissism, a kind of denial-based coping mechanism grounded in a world-view that this industrial-revolution-scale change on society is somehow a passing phase. | | |
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| ▲ | kazinator 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It has filtered itself out! "Show HN: Hacker News, Without AI" is front page on news.ycombinator.com, absent on unslop.news. |
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| ▲ | bnchrch 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yes please, take all the bleeding edge tech stories out of the aggregator I go to for bleeding edge tech stories. |
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| ▲ | deniska 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | The majority of links about "AI" are not really interesting. "New model released, people who want to avoid thinking can now avoid 7% more thinking according to NoThink benchmark". The top comment: "look at the SVG of a pelican they overfit the model on this time". | | |
| ▲ | Lerc 2 days ago | parent [-] | | If only we could put all new stories into a single feed and have some sort of mechanism to determine what the community considers interesting. | | |
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| ▲ | zephyrthenoble 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | While I get what you are saying, from my perspective, there is no longer the same breadth of content on HN, with LLM related content taking up a significant portion of the top posts. Today is actually a pretty good day, with I think 7/30 being LLM related. I just don't like having to dig through multiple pages of LLM posts to find other types of tech news. Even if I do read a few here or there, I can't filter them out to look for other stuff. There is other tech out there beyond AI. | | |
| ▲ | wesz 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I feel like simple tagging system for hn submissions would fix that. A couple of predefined tags - single submissions should have at least one tag. User can define list of tags they want to follow and that's it. |
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| ▲ | archagon 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | “Tech stories” = Nth OpenAI/Anthropic press release or LLM-generated thought piece. Such enrichment, much learning. | |
| ▲ | otherayden 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes, bleeding edge tech story = tech story primarily focused on AI | | |
| ▲ | Plont 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I was unaware that technological progress stopped for everything but LLMs. All other types of technology have achieved their final forms. Wow. Seriously though, every AI story feels the same lately. There's: 1. company wants or gets more compute
2. IPO
3. AI slop is bad
4. AI company executive says something batshit (often because IPO) It's gotten pretty boring to read more than the headline for most of these. | |
| ▲ | Plont 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I was unaware that technological progress stopped for everything but LLMs. All other types of technology have achieved their final forms. Wow. Seriously though, every AI story feels the same lately. There's: 1. company wants or gets more compute
2. IPO
3. AI slop is bad
4. AI Company Executive says something batshit (often because IPO) It's gotten pretty boring to read more than the headline for most of these. It doesn't feel bleeding edge so much as repetitive. |
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| ▲ | ghostly_s 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Id like to see news about AI, just not AI tooling or "show hn my new AI project". obviously that's not as trivial to filter. |
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| ▲ | hn_submit 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| To me this sounds very welcome. I'm continually scanning and skipping over any HN articles concerning A.I. and LLMs. Having a site (or even a setting in HN) that does this for me is great! |
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| ▲ | burnt-resistor 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I love this so much because I hide every "Look at me, I use LLMs and it makes my toast" stories. |
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| ▲ | sershe 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Heh I was thinking for a while about a similar pet project but I would remove the political/mainstream news rage bait, especially the stuff that is more or less unrelated to technology. AI news are still tech news |
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| ▲ | otherayden 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Feel free to fork this then! https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai It uses an LLM to categorize posts as ai or not, so you can just use a different prompt to filter out whatever you don't want (e.g "Respond with only true or false. true if the following post content is primarily political and false otherwise) |
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| ▲ | bana-io 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I actually like the look of this, I especially like being able to set a serif font instead of whatever default is on https://news.ycombinator.com. |
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| ▲ | metalliqaz 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It would be funny if this was vibe coded. |
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| ▲ | sriyapaka 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Appreciate the thought; it's essential to keep us alive in engineering!
It is understood; AI exist; that's not the only news :) |
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| ▲ | japaget 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The upvote button seems to be broken or non-functional on unslop.news. I am running Windows 10 on a PC desktop with the latest version of MS Edge. |
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| ▲ | otherayden 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Adding this as an issue, will fix tonight! Edit: I'm realizing to get the upvotes to work I actually need an auth token for the user's HN account so it will have to be a redirect to the HN thread rather than a functional upvote button, but I am going to keep it to stick with the HN design | |
| ▲ | karim79 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | That's intentional. It's a design choice. Get with the programme. |
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| ▲ | gnfargbl 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Does "without AI" mean without posts about AI, or without posts written by AI? I think this is the former, but I want the latter. |
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| ▲ | otherayden 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I'm the creator, and it is the former. I will consider spending some money on one of the available "AI detector" APIs and making a similar site for the latter. My main problem with them, though, is that I don't think they work very well and even if they work now, I imagine they'd be perpetually behind the newest models |
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| ▲ | phforms 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| HN mostly depresses me these days, so I appreciate this! (nice to see vibe-coding put to good use for once) |
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| ▲ | vander_elst 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Great project I was thinking about doing *exactly* the same. Do you mind sharing your stack? |
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| ▲ | Kuyawa 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is there any AI News site out there? Just AI related news and nothing else There is a market for curated news about AI development in the world. I'd subscribe without hesitation If so, please provide a link, thank you |
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| ▲ | imshaikot 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That's right on the money name picking :D |
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| ▲ | tern 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| A few design bugs in the mobile layout (Chrome) |
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| ▲ | otherayden 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Ah I have been using safari for testing. Will add this as an issue and fix tonight! |
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| ▲ | nphardon 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is the first attempt I've seen that seems to be working. I like that it's just a acting as a filter and the comment section is linked to the hackernews source. It's really satisfying to not see any Ai bs. I do like how hackernews is limited to 30 front page posts. |
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| ▲ | 0gs 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| links at the top e.g. show redirect to the regular site, i presume they are supposed to go to a filtered version |
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| ▲ | bhanu786 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It is espically god for AI researchers like me, is there any other resource, if you knowe would love to explore it |
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| ▲ | daishi55 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| ADS (AI derangement syndrome) |
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| ▲ | VCFundedGenYer 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This was written with AI, so there's no point here. |
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| ▲ | teiferer 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Currently there is an article about feeling sad w.r.t. AI on the front page. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49661506 That one is filtered out too. Surely nobody is going to claim that it is slop? |
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| ▲ | drusepth 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I mean, that post /is/ entirely about AI. The "I love AI" posts are just as bad as the "I hate AI" posts, and the same "this is my opinion on AI" posts are as bad as the onslaught of poorly-AI-vibed demo posts. Makes sense to filter them all out IMO. | | |
| ▲ | lukan 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Agreed, but filtering still mostly works by people upvoting or flagging. | |
| ▲ | teiferer 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sure, filter whatever fits your taste. But it's not slop, so "unslop.news" may not be the perfect name. |
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| ▲ | osquar 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Time for only-AI hacker news |
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| ▲ | ChrisArchitect 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Current thread: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49657850 |
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| ▲ | testaccount121 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| On the front page: Show HN: Hacker News, Without AI (unslop.news)
Hacker News with reduced priority for AI driven content (sprinklz.io)
Show HN: Hacker News, without AI (hcker.news)
Three anti AI HN things on the front page at the same time. Two with the same title. This is spam. |
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| ▲ | allknowingfrog 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Or maybe it reflects a genuine desire from some subset of regular HN readers? Is it spam when three different articles about the latest Anthropic model make the front page? Or the latest Apple product release? | |
| ▲ | kazinator 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | But have you heard of https://unslop.news? If you look at HN through that, the above AI-related spam disappears. | |
| ▲ | jefurii 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I think it's useful, and maybe an indication of something positive. |
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| ▲ | Tubelord 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| unslop.news IS slop btw: https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai |
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| ▲ | graypegg 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Huh... it's not even that hard of a problem to solve right? Maybe I'm insane, but I feel like this is easier to crank out in rails or something than sloppin' it. It's a singular page, with some filtering on one model + a job to add entries on a regular basis with an API call out to openanthrogemingptai. We do get the the pinnicle of software quality though: parsing HTML with regex. https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai/blob/007e7b4a6df6... | | |
| ▲ | otherayden 2 days ago | parent [-] | | lol it works though doesn't it? | | |
| ▲ | graypegg 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Oh I'm just saying this would be faster to make with a framework and... traditional coding or whatever I'm told to call my job now. If you're talking about parsing HTML with regex... buddy that IS the pinnacle of software quality. I'm sure... nay convinced, that HTML is fully parseable with regular expressions. We were just waiting for one very special boy to ask Claude for it, and today, the world hath received the fruits from a tree we planted long ago... thank you. |
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| ▲ | greenowl 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Kind of funny that currently the number 1 article is a Show HN for an AI vibe coded slop terminal program. |
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| ▲ | iLemming 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| We get it, guys - you don't like reading news about AI, but can you just stop spamming submissions with this crap - "HN with no AI, built with AI", wtf is that? I feel like building: "HN for non-haters of AI", where every single motherfucker that even mentions anything remotely sounding like "a slop" would be just shadow-banned. And I'm not even excited about AI. |
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| ▲ | bedroom_jabroni 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Why is it empty? /s |