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winstonwinston 2 hours ago

Maybe but this is unexpected if you need to restore from a backup..

ryandrake an hour ago | parent | next [-]

It's unexpected to anyone with intuition about how a computer traditionally is supposed to work. As a general principle, as a user, I expect a file on one computer to be usable on another computer. Or, at the very least, if I need to obtain some other thing from the original computer to "unlock" that file, I should be able to do it. The idea of a file that is only usable on a particular computer feels weird.

GeekyBear 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

> As a general principle, as a user, I expect a file on one computer to be usable on another computer.

As a general rule, I expect a file on an encrypted disk to be unreadable for anyone who lacks the encryption key(s).

petronic an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've done Tahoe-to-Tahoe migration assistant moves between machines in recent months. No issues with login keychain migration.

winstonwinston an hour ago | parent | next [-]

But that’s not backup restore? I’m thinking Time Machine restore on a new Mac when old one is no longer working. Or when the old one had to be wiped and restored.

lapcat 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Migration Assistant uses the old Mac, which can unlock its login keychain and allow the keychain items to be copied.

__MatrixMan__ an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Don't backup keys, rotate them.

gavinsyancey an hour ago | parent [-]

I can't rotate my keys if I lose access to accounts because my computer died and my backup is useless.

__MatrixMan__ 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yeah, that's why secure enclaves embedded in complex devices are a bad idea.

Hardware keys are the way:

- Less likely to fail in the first place

- Cheap enough to have several of so you can use one to log in and manage the others in the event of loss

- Easy to move between devices

- Less likely to use the auth handshake as a side channel for things you didn't consent to