| ▲ | 737min 2 hours ago |
| Ansar Allah (Houthis) is a terrible Islamist group that commits warcrimws against both Yemenis and people thousands of miles away.
Here’s just one example, executing men for gayness: https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/03/27/yemen-houthis-sentence-m... “In addition to death sentences that include crucifixion and stoning, the Houthi court sentenced 23 men to prison for periods of up to 10 years. Three of them were also sentenced to public flogging” |
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| ▲ | jonplackett 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Saudi Arabia who they’re fighting against by proxy, and who we sell lots of bombs to, and are soon going to help get nuclear technology, not so great either. https://www.humandignitytrust.org/country-profile/saudi-arab... |
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| ▲ | spwa4 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Just so it's clear that you're trying to cause confusion: these are light water reactors that cannot in any way shape or form be used to make bombs. Slightly harder to design and build. Much cheaper to run. Excellent for power. Bad for bombs. And, yes, just to get ahead of your next question: the US (and Europe and Russia and China) have offered to help Iran create these. Explaining it to them. Send people and engineers who have done it. Just get them from us. Or for free. We have tried everything. Iran has systematically refused everything, yet insist their program is for peaceful purposes only. I'm not saying Saudi Arabia is perfect, far from it. But they are not looking to destroy the world or the region, and yes, sorry to say, but Iran is. | | |
| ▲ | riffraff 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I 100% agree Iran wants nukes, but I don't think it's a given they want to "destroy the region". It is more likely they want to get the same level of safety countries with nukes get, e.g. North Korea's leadership is at no risen of getting a "democratizing" invasion. Then again, who knows what the next leader will do. | |
| ▲ | quietsignal 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | On that second note what about the plant in Bushehr? | |
| ▲ | mrguyorama an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | >But they are not looking to destroy the world or the region, and yes, sorry to say, but Iran is. Then why did Iran discontinue their other WMD programs, like much cheaper and easier to manage chemical weapons programs? Why is Iran holding back and not targeting Israel's water infrastructure? If they just want to kill everyone they have options right now that they aren't taking. Why does Iran hold back if they would use a nuke as soon as they get one because they just want to destroy the region? Iran objectively wants to build a nuke, and has willingly sacrificed everything to do it, but it wouldn't have taken becoming a rogue state and trillions of dollars of GDP to kill Israel to their liking. Other than a nuke, Israel's retaliation options are fairly limited. | |
| ▲ | powellc 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | mamonster 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >Ansar Allah (Houthis) is a terrible Islamist group IMO this is kind of bad framing because it suggests that they're the minority in Yemen, when in reality they basically are the government of 70-80% population of Yemen and absorbed 60+ percent of the Yemeni regular army. They are basically at this point the de-facto Yemeni government |
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| ▲ | tptacek an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Ansar Allah isn't even close to a majority of the population of Yemen. Yemen is majority-Sunni. Ansar Allah is a militant Zaydi revivalist movement, and what they're attempting to revive is a Zaydi caste system. | |
| ▲ | andriy_koval an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > when in reality they basically are the government of 70-80% population of Yemen and absorbed 60+ percent of the Yemeni regular army. sure, they took this by force while killing those who disagree.
Its part of Sunni vs Shia confrontation, and Yemen is majority Sunni. | |
| ▲ | yieldcrv 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [flagged] | |
| ▲ | 737min 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Their size - gained by brutal conquest - does not increase their legitimacy, it’s an Islamist group. | | |
| ▲ | ClarityJones 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I decry the legitimacy of my coffee table, but my toe still hurts when I kick it. | |
| ▲ | ihumanable 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Brutal conquest is a pretty well traveled path to legitimacy. Power is taken, and regardless of the ideals of the takers, enough power grants legitimacy. | |
| ▲ | kakacik 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | So is taliban, yet they both rule a country. |
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| ▲ | markus_zhang 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Aren’t they all? I guess it is better that they fight each other. |
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| ▲ | lenkite an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Ansar Allah (Houthis) is a terrible Islamist group that commits warcrimws ... The Syrian President and current Western/Israeli "good boy" - belongs to Hayat Tahrir al-Sham which has committed warcrimes which make the Houthis look like choir boys. He was former Al-Qaeda too with a multi-million dollar bounty. Done an utterly ridiculous number of beheadings, chaining & rape of women, torture, the whole galore of works carried out by a popular ruthless terrorist in a long career. Now he is fully supported by the US AND the EU. So, any time, any citizen of a Western nation complains about "war crimes" and wants "regime change", I call them deeply disgusting, sanctimonious hyprocrites. You fellows have lost any and all moral standing to talk about "war crimes". |
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| ▲ | ericd an hour ago | parent [-] | | Geopolitics is way too complicated for such black and white thinking. Do you know who amongst the governments of those countries decided to back this Syrian president? I certainly don't. What percentage of the (huge) populations that you're damning as "deeply disgusting, sanctimonious hypocrites" do you think know who the current Syrian president is, his history, know who amongst their governments backed him, voted for the people who backed him? Humans just physically can't keep track of everything, especially things so far outside of their daily life and physical experience. You can't reasonably hold them responsible for everything bad that happens in the world that their countries contributed to, especially things that are entirely abstract for them. | | |
| ▲ | lenkite 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > Geopolitics is way too complicated for such black and white thinking. Do you know who amongst the governments of those countries decided to back this Syrian president? I certainly don't. I am very much against black and white thinking. But the typical US and even EU liberal citizen is mired in such thinking when it comes to talk about "war crimes and "regime change". If you don't know who in the EU govt decided to back this Syrian President, then I can only facepalm since even as a poor, "low-IQ" third-worlder (according to MAGA folks), I am educated on the same. Please look at Ursula von der Leyen and her €620 million support package. Yes, I will hold you folks responsible. This is not some "abstract idea" - it is basic, common knowledge and you fellows always, always fall to your media propaganda. |
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| ▲ | adrr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The other side is Al Qaeda. So who do you support? Wipe out the Houthis and you'll get another Syria where Al Qaeda controls the country. Edit: Downvote me as much you want doesn't change the facts. the front line fighters for Yemen government is Al Qaeda. It was same thing as Syria which is why we have an Al Qaeda leader as their president. https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/02/middleeast/yemen-los... |
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| ▲ | mamonster 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Houthis are allied/in the early stages of an alliance with Al-Shabab though | |
| ▲ | 737min 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes, but there is growing cooperation between Sunni and Shia Islamists. Support none, all kill gays, infidels and “misbehaving” women. | | |
| ▲ | adrr 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Saudi is the exactly same as Iran. Both far right countries. Both execute gays. Both don't support women's rights. Both execute kids. My point is there is no good side so the best option is not to pick a side and get out of the middle east. |
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| ▲ | znpy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Hopefully there will be another epic fury operation to clear the situation |
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| ▲ | thenayr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| As an American, I love that the American right wing immediately point out how Islamist treat gays, as if the American right isn’t still trying to outlaw gay marriage and kill trans people. Get a grip you guys. |
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| ▲ | nekusar 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | QuercusMax 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Do they do double-tap strikes on schools and hospitals? Do they shoot children 355 times to make sure they're dead like with Hind Rajab? Just trying to see how the compare to the US and Israeli militaries when it comes to war crimes. |
