| ▲ | bhouston 2 hours ago |
| The Houthis created a fake audio of a major Yemeni commander telling his troops to retreat which was subsequently amplified on Twitter/X, telegram, etc. Apparently, this helped the Houthis advance quickly as the opposition forces were in disarray. https://x.com/BashaReport/status/2097862335494795579 |
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| ▲ | autoexec an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| If that's true, it's insane that it worked. It should be obvious to not take orders from twitter. There's a chain of command for a reason and random people on social media are no part of it. Sounds like the opposition forces would have to be so stupid that any number of Looney Tunes style tricks would have worked. Maybe next they can send out a rabbit in a dress to make opposition fall in love with it. |
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| ▲ | BLKNSLVR an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Yep, the Commander In Chief only issues orders on Truth Social. | |
| ▲ | apexalpha 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The US President routinely announces policy decisions on social media… You’d lose a lot of money always waiting for news through officials channels. Who knows how slow Yemini military channels are. You’d bet your life on it? | | |
| ▲ | autoexec 20 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > The US President routinely announces policy decisions on social media… Yes, our current President also does stupid things, and our military forces shouldn't be using his incoherent ramblings on Twitter to make snap judgements on the battlefield without checking with their chain of command either. |
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| ▲ | consumer451 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Twitter is huge in KSA. Much more significant a share than other countries. Something like 60% to 70% of the population are active users. | |
| ▲ | CommanderData 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Donald duck lies every other minute, especially on Fridays it seems. Fog is a tactic of war and a way to make money I guess. |
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| ▲ | kryogen1c 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Can't read the Twitter link, but that sounds made up. Where in the battlefield decision making process are they listening to social media recordings to make combat decisions? |
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| ▲ | lopsotronic an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | If it was involving a reasonably solid military I would agree. Sauds, on the other hand . . . | |
| ▲ | Arodex an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It gave demoralized soldiers an excuse to flee rather than fight. Nobody was going to question the reprieve offered by an order to retreat, even fake. | |
| ▲ | bpodgursky an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world? Even in the Russia/Ukraine conflict they use Telegram for basic operations. All chat applications are dual-use. | | |
| ▲ | kryogen1c an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world? I have no idea, but Im certain that twitter recordings do not put frontline forces in disarray. > use Telegram for basic operations an encrypted private communication channel is very different than public social media | | |
| ▲ | bpodgursky an hour ago | parent [-] | | You have far, far too much faith in the professionalism of armed forces in the developing world. 99% of it is just random 22 year old guys with guns and dual-use communication tech. | | |
| ▲ | kryogen1c 8 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > too much faith in the professionalism I dont know that its a matter of professionalism. Everyone in the world has known that AI can generate video and audio that is imperceptibly fake, for years. And thats to say nothing of man-made forgeries in the years prior. I have a hard time seeing people on the front line throwing down arms and running away because of an unsourced twitter clip. | | |
| ▲ | fluffybucktsnek a few seconds ago | parent [-] | | We, as in the terminally online, have known that AI can generate imperceptibly fake footage. There are still plenty of average people who still gets caught off guard. |
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| ▲ | londons_explore an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | And most chat apps are either e2e encrypted or HTTPS, both of which are hard to break for third world nations. But leaks of those messages onto twitter are probably the most valuable info source for what the enemy is doing. | |
| ▲ | SoftTalker an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Third world? Have we forgotten the Pete Hegseth Signal fiasco? |
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| ▲ | hn993302 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If this is real, the interesting part is this Adelalhasanii user who amplified it. Seems like a Yemini who's supportive of the Houthis. |
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| ▲ | shevy-java 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That sounds like a fake storyline. The much simpler explanation
is that the local Saudi merc army sucked. If you followed the
whole conflict in the last 20 years this is largely the case -
the Saudis aren't really great at warfare, typically depending on
foreign mercenaries (also for cleaning etc...). These in turn
have very low morale. |
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| ▲ | consumer451 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Holy shit. This is really interesting. AI used to impersonate, social media to amplify, and that led to a significant tactical defeat? I don't want to live in interesting times anymore. |
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| ▲ | jb3689 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | “Don’t believe everything you read on the internet” seems like the golden rule we’ve all forgotten | | |
| ▲ | mitxela 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yet here we are, believing that the Houthis used fake AI voice to achieve a battlefield victory. | |
| ▲ | nonsensical_ 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Where men are men and 14-year old girls are FBI agents. |
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| ▲ | electrondood 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They also used Claude in a fairly sophisticated way to design their missile guidance system (PDF, search for GTG-87001). https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/e50be2e51e7695dc4b1366a37a245a... | | |
| ▲ | jollyllama an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | "AI is critical for National Defense." "But I don't see it helping us, it's just helping our enemies get closer to parity ." "Precisely. How else are we going to justify the budget?" | |
| ▲ | tencentshill 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Where did Anthropic get that information to train their model on is a good question to ask as well. | | |
| ▲ | wbl 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Thr engineering library of your local college has all the information needed for ballistic guidance systems. | | |
| ▲ | chasd00 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | yeah and so does the ardupilot documentation including examples. A basic guidance system, which is like single waypoint navigation, is a solved problem. It's in basically every prosumer drone too. | |
| ▲ | tencentshill 11 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Or they don't have that information in the training data and it wasn't actually nearly as helpful for developing a missile as they claim. |
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| ▲ | consumer451 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah, I saw that. I wonder if there are any other AI labs that are naive (good?) enough to admit this type of thing. Obviously, it's happening with all decent models. | | |
| ▲ | ericd 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's not naivete/goodness, this is totally aligned with their playbook of trying to get AI to be heavily regulated. | | |
| ▲ | consumer451 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | OK, that is a plausible argument given Dario's public positions. I have to admit that I keep cutting them some slack for standing up against automated kill chain, and domestic surveillance. | | |
| ▲ | ericd an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | To be clear, I don't think they're doing it because they want all the money, I think they truly believe that this is existentially threatening, and are trying to regulate their open source competition away because they think that's the way to be safe. That they can be trusted with the power, but if it's out and about, that's unsafe - they like to compare it to nukes, and they want nuclear non-proliferation. | | |
| ▲ | consumer451 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Thanks for the thoughtful reply. This is the most "I get both sides" issue in my mind these days. I am still not sure where I fall, or if there is even a correct position with which to agree. It really seems like there are no good options. On the one hand, if all knowledge work ended up in two dude's hands, that is really bad. On the other hand, if every surviving child victim of war (US, RU, IL, CN, whatever) has access to make custom viruses for a few grand, that is also really bad. |
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| ▲ | 15155 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Automated kill chains and domestic surveillance are happening regardless of what one corporation wants. These technologies will never be inaccessible to the government or government contractors who already have zero issues navigating red tape. The point of regulation is to kill competitors and prevent private individuals from having unfettered access. |
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| ▲ | 9cb14c1ec0 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Makes me want to be a frontier model provider just to get the ring-side seat on what every bad actor in the world is doing. |
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| ▲ | moralestapia 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Oh wow! Dario and Scam were right! We should stop everybody else from developing AI, except for both of them which are the most appropriate stewards for this technology. |
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| ▲ | 2OEH8eoCRo0 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | sejje 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Liable for Yemeni troops taking orders from social media? Do they have a chain of command? Are people in charge? | |
| ▲ | MSFT_Edging 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is the chaos that silicon valley and the current US government has fully gotten behind. | |
| ▲ | accountrequired 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | ... even though they aren't? | |
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