| ▲ | ak_111 2 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This war started as a regime change operation in Iran, one of the shakiest regimes in the world pre-war, but ironically the war might end up with most of the nations who supported the war (either vocally or quietly) "regime changed" (loosely defined), including Israel, US, some European countries and now possibly some Gulf nations, awhile the Iranian regime seem to have tightened its grip more than ever. Yet MAGA supporters were saying early in the war that they are "plan trusters" as prior US admins sucked at regime change because it is a "skills issue" and none of the prior admins had the triple digits IQ of Hegseth, Trump and Bessent. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | fnordpiglet 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Triple digit when summed I assume? If they were going to try this it needed to be done months earlier when the protests were raging. Instead the brain trust fumbled the initiative and let the Iranian leadership kill and scourge their local allies into compliance. Then fumbling the decapitation strike coupled with the decades of preparation for a decapitation strike (via redundancy of command) the genius brigade seemed to be unaware of because they fired all the experts, and the total repression of the protesting populace, led to an unusually strong system in Iran. They also almost certainly let racism play a big role in underestimating the Iranians, who are a very technically sophisticated society and have been preparing for this scenario since day one of the revolution. Everything that’s happened was predictable and predicted, which is why other administrations who were more than happy to topple foreign governments when it suited them to not do so in Iran. MAGA feels like the junior dev that blames the compiler for their own syntax errors. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | danisth 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Not sure where you get the shaky regime idea, but Iran was not on the verge of collapse from protests prior to the war. It may have been on the verge of more aggressive clamping down from the IRGC, but collapse wasn’t around the corner. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | adrr an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
All the Kingdoms in middle east are very fragile. Gulf coast countries economies are crashing due to the blockade. Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia. One Arab spring away from a new government and this could be the spark. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | somenameforme 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Do you even realize that one of the only reason anybody still supports this war is precisely because of comments like yours? By dividing people into teams, and antagonizing them, you result in people never willing to stomach giving an inch and doubling down on stupid. Obviously this war has been the US' latest great failure, and at the beckoning of a foreign power which makes it especially catastrophic. If people could focus on this, rather than trying to divide things into teams and then sling mud, they'd have vastly better outcomes come November (and on) than just using it for divisive mudslinging which does nothing but ensure that all elections, regardless of how bad the decisions of a incumbent, or how awful a challenger, will remain these sort of 50/50 coinflips. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | kadoban 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> the triple digits IQ of Hegseth, Trump and Bessent. One digit each. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | panny 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>This war started as a regime change operation in Iran I believe this war started with a tomahawk missle murdering a school full of children and then the US denying involvement. I very clearly remember it. US attacks Iran unprovoked. First act, murder their children in school. If you wanted to solidify opposition to the US in Iran, I don't think they could have done a more effective job. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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