| ▲ | Show HN: Hacker News, without AI(hcker.news) |
| 101 points by postalcoder 2 hours ago | 58 comments |
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| ▲ | dorkrawk an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| For Hacker News without AI, can I suggest the domain of news.ycombntor.com ? |
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| ▲ | layer8 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If you prefer something closer to the original layout: https://www.unslop.news/ |
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| ▲ | otherayden an hour ago | parent [-] | | Thank you for sharing my site :) | | |
| ▲ | gonzalohm an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Do you know if there is a way of pointing any of the hackernews phone apps to your site instead of the official one? | | |
| ▲ | otherayden an hour ago | parent [-] | | I don't personally use those apps so I'm not sure, but if they're open source I'm confident you could easily update them to work with my site. In case it's useful, here's the source code https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai | | |
| ▲ | xvinci 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It does not have a license so it cannot be used though. | |
| ▲ | toomuchtodo an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Huh, perhaps there is a project to be done to consume the HN firehose and serve it AT Proto style from the firehose. HN mobile clients can then pick the feed they want. AI? No AI? Politics? No politics? Frameworks? No frameworks? Choose your own HN post feed adventure. Read replica esq consumption, writes (comments, posts, votes) go to the primary data store (HN). |
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| ▲ | layer8 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Thank you for basically only filtering and not changing the style. :) |
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| ▲ | account42 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| First post shown right now is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49659245 which is essentially an ad for an AI company. So I guess this will need further fine tuning. |
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| ▲ | busymom0 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Here's how mine looks using my method: https://imgur.com/a/P1qMIok 9 out of 30 posts have been removed. Steps: Install uBlock Origin Lite. Then create a custom filter: news.ycombinator.com##tr.athing:has(a:has-text(/\b(?:A\.?I\.?|A\.?G\.?I\.?|LLMs?|GPTs?|TPU|NPU|RAG|MoE|RLHF|xAI)\b|Anthropic|agent|super-?intelligence|Blackwell|Cerebras|ChatGPT|Claude|Cohere|Command\s*R|Context\s*window|Copilot|Cursor|DALL-E|deep\s*learning|DeepSeek|ElevenLabs|Fine-tun(?:e|ing)|Flux|Gemini|GenAI|Generative|Gemma|Grok|Groq|H100|Hallucination|harness(?:es)?|Hugging\s*Face|LangChain|Llama|LlamaIndex|Midjourney|Mistral|Ollama|OpenAI|OpenRouter|Perplexity|prompt|Qwen|Runway\s*(?:AI|ML)|Gen-[1-4](?:\.5)?|Sora|Synthetic\s*data|token|vibecod|vLLM|Whisper/i)):xpath(. | following-sibling::tr[1])
Any improvements to above filter are welcome. | |
| ▲ | amelius an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Maybe use AI to filter the posts? :) |
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| ▲ | bronlund an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is like; during a war, when you just want to read the news without anything about the war :D |
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| ▲ | nilsherzig 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Here is an approach to filtering LLM written content: https://hnslop.nilsherzig.com/ Instead of filtering keywords this ranks the content using Pangram. But it's also pretty effective at filtering content about AI. Turns out that a lot of LLM tooling projects have LLM written project descriptions/blog posts. It's amazing to see how many of the "AI hurts my brain" posts are apparently written by an LLM. |
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| ▲ | postalcoder 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Nice! I was considering doing this but the Pangram API is very expensive. Then I considered training my own model and I fortunately stopped at the edge of that rabbit hole. | | |
| ▲ | nilsherzig 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Yea very expensive (hence me siphoning another page haha). Im trying to get something cheaper to work, Pangram has some nice docs on how to build something like their service https://github.com/pangramlabs/EditLens, they even have training data online. The harm a missclassification carries is much lower for a hn post than a masters thesis, so we might be fine with a worse model. | | |
| ▲ | postalcoder a minute ago | parent [-] | | Yeah agree, Pangram puts out interesting material. I recently came across their v4 technical report and they shared a lot more than I would have expected them to. But see, here I am at the edge of the rabbit hole, and you're trying to pull me in. I refuse! If you do end up training a model, send me an email and maybe I can tie it into the site. |
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| ▲ | nilsherzig 31 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | nvm sorry, just read the "how this works" comment from OP. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49660301 OPs solution does more than keyword filtering. But its still about filtering out "content about ai" not filtering out "ai written content". |
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| ▲ | thisisauserid 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Ironically, this is trivial to build with LLMs. |
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| ▲ | chilipepperhott an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This one actually works: https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai |
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| ▲ | tcfhgj 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Hacker News, without AI needs to be a plugin for Firefox - I don´t really want to use two pages at the same time. |
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| ▲ | grandwizardmarv 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Good idea but needs a stronger filter |
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| ▲ | Tepix an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You need to search deeper! Looking at the iPod 6G QEMU emulation story: > "With the help of Claude Code, I was able to create code to extract it using emCORE." |
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| ▲ | ranger_danger 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Depends on what you want "without AI" to mean... is it just stories about AI, or anything that an AI has touched at all? Or purely vibe-coded projects? |
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| ▲ | jessetemp an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There is also the hide button under every post, which I’ve started using generously. It only takes a few seconds to clean up the front page to your taste |
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| ▲ | datakan an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm mixed on that. Definitely topics I hide when I think people can't discuss them like adults, but sometimes even bad stories have some great discussions in them. | |
| ▲ | gdulli an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I have a cron job that logs in and hides stuff based on a big list of keywords and domains I'm not interested in. |
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| ▲ | loldidntwork 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Top article is about AI eliminating jobs, nice attempt tho |
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| ▲ | postalcoder 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Where? | | |
| ▲ | Gualdrapo an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | First one atm is about HuggingFace. | |
| ▲ | TouchGrass 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This site can’t be reached
The connection was reset.
Try: Checking the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
ERR_CONNECTION_RESET | | |
| ▲ | postalcoder 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm guessing this is a cloudflare issue? Try again, I turned bot protection off. The site was getting flooded by requests from bot scrapers. |
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| ▲ | sejje an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Top story: huggingface |
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| ▲ | basch an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| still prefer the simplicity of a reverse river, with a focus on votes and comments https://hckrnews.com/ its incredibly easy to immediately tell when something was posted, and how popular it was. there s no automagic rearranging or movement. similar to https://techmeme.com/river |
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| ▲ | postalcoder an hour ago | parent [-] | | Open up the settings bar at the top and set the story layout to "hckr". That layout is directly inspired by hckrnews.com. |
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| ▲ | mpalmer 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I quite like this, particularly that the filter is just a preset! Will be back. Minor UI feedback - when navigating comments (and maybe other stuff) with the keyboard, the actual focus change is blocked behind some automated scroll behavior, and the effect is that someone quickly hitting keybinds will collapse the wrong thread. Would suggest making the focus change happen concurrently. |
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| ▲ | postalcoder 21 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Thanks for the feedback. Comment drawer nav could be a lot better. I started working on the keyboard nav but got distracted with other things. I'll fix it. |
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| ▲ | postalcoder an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Just a few high level points about how this works. It works in multiple stages: 1. I apply a domain and keyword filter to the feed
2. The content of the remaining articles are run twice daily through a Modern Bert-based classifier fine-tuned to detect AI-related content (~8000 training examples)[0].
It also filters out Github repos that contain AI authorship. My backend scans: - Commit messages for agent attribution
- The contributor graph for agents
- Repo files for instructions/configs
RSS feed here: https://hcker.news/feeds/atom?period=day&ai=exclude0: The original workflow for this was a little different. For the better part of the past year, I had an AI agent detect AI-related stories and raise ~20 stories to me to make a judgement call on. After a while, a workflow like this just doesn't make sense when small models can do it equally as well. The training data is based on the machine and my labeling. |
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| ▲ | jrm4 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This feels like trying to do "Hacker News, without 'the Internet.'" |
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| ▲ | NeedNewForums 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | People were actually complaining specifically about OpenAI/Anthropic glazing and the countless influencer comments and posts here every hour. And it's getting twisted into "People want HN without AI." But that was never the case. I mean some surely do. But the blow-up this morning was specific to Anthropic ads to the point there's basically no information on this website that isn't related to Anthropic or OpenAI. If it was announced some rando kid made a LLM in PHP or something, sure share it! If it was announced someone actually made something cool with AI (lol) then share it! But Claude 24/7 aint it. It's at least extremely boring! |
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| ▲ | niyonx 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Great use of AI |
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| ▲ | verdverm 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is it still hacker news if you manipulate the listing based on your own bias? I suppose it depends on what point of view we answer from. It is very hacker-newsery to make something like this |
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| ▲ | flashu 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Finally, I am really sick of eye-based filtering AI trash |
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| ▲ | sochowski 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| i can't tell if the slop ui or the slop posts are worse |
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| ▲ | visarga an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Do you have one but only with AI? like, a toggle on what side to see? Edit: ah yes, sure it exists |
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| ▲ | nonsensical_ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I prefer lobste.rs for this. |
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| ▲ | RIMR an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The first link is about HuggingFace, lmao. |
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| ▲ | ChrisArchitect 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| We just did this last month; Stick to sharing your thing in the current thread today: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49657850 |