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magicalist 39 minutes ago

> It's not obvious to me that's an unethical thing to do

In terms of work in mathematics, something I personally would not do based on ethical grounds would be to hear a rumor that some researchers are taking a certain approach and may be nearing a solution, use a model that was possibly contaminated with intimate knowledge about that approach (though later they investigated and think it wasn't), and then commit millions to tens of millions of dollars and untold amounts of hardware to try to beat them to it. If I had done this, I also wouldn't have pestered the researchers on a Sunday night to meet immediately so we could negotiate a nice way of presenting the actions I had decided to take.

Even if you don't think it was unethical, it was never going to be received well in the community that was especially going to care about this work, and who are very much peers to many of the people working on this solution, so it was at the least an enormous (and well-deserved) own-goal that their unveiling of their solution to NS went like this.

dwaltrip 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

I heard they also tried to strong-arm them into removing the name of their collaborator who happened to work at a different company (Anthropic)...

I haven't looked into it myself, but if true, that seems incredibly scummy.