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JoshTriplett 2 hours ago

If you shame people for acting now rather than earlier, you discourage them from acting at all.

Sometimes people aren't in a position to be secure enough to act. Sometimes different issues are more effective at resonating enough to break through previously cached unconsidered patterns of thought. Sometimes people don't know all the things that are going on, and act once they've learned about them. Whatever the reason, if your reaction is "took you long enough" rather than "welcome", you discourage people from acting.

Don't punish the behavior you want to see more of.

(Also, OP is not even an instance of what you're decrying; see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49647687 .)

EA-3167 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I’m not interested in shaming people or crediting them for superficial performances. The entire premise is ridiculous, as if the companies people are working for are somehow ethical.

You’re making money from venture capitalists and tech firms, MS, Meta, X, Google, etc… which of them is any better than MS? They’re all awful in different ways.

JoshTriplett 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You are dismissing people as superficial or performative when they are taking action according to their ethics. Have you considered the possibility that people are not, in fact, performing, and are just trying to be ethical?

I can't tell if your actual goal here is to be dismissive of the entire concept of people caring about ethics, or if you don't think that quitting is an effective means of acting in concert with those ethics. If it's the latter, then I'd suggest that it's a start, not everyone is in the position to do even that much, and some people who do so will be able to go further. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, particularly if someone is taking a step in the right direction.

alpha_squared an hour ago | parent | next [-]

A lesson I've had to learn is that, for some people, ethics is a paycheck. It can be incomprehensible to imagine someone acting against their own paycheck as a result.

mitxela an hour ago | parent [-]

Capitalistic evolution selects for that people, so their numbers only increase.

EA-3167 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You don’t have to repeat yourself, I understood your point originally, I simply disagree with both your premise and conclusions. I don’t have the same respect for people who preach “anti-Zionism” at every turn online, I’m not that gullible.

5upplied_demand 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

If quitting a job is "performative" what would you consider a "non-performative" act?

Ironically, you are doing your own preaching in your comments. It could even be described as "performative."

EA-3167 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

Oh God I realized the issue here, I didn't make myself clear:

Talking about doing something on a 4 month old account is not the same as doing it. I give credit to people for doing things, not claiming to do them in an anonymous forum they just joined. Cynical? Perhaps, but maybe if people were just a bit more cynical about believing any text on the internet just because it feels better to believe it, we'd be better off.

sebzim4500 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It's clearly not a superficial performance if you actually quit a high paying job.