| ▲ | varispeed 2 hours ago |
| These tests are pointless when often models get nerfed few days after release. Astra today is way dumber than just few days ago. |
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| ▲ | kzrdude 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Is that something we have credible evidence for? Do they serve a better model when artificialanalysis (the benchmark site) is making the requests, and so on? |
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| ▲ | varispeed an hour ago | parent [-] | | It is my own anectodal. Few days something I worked on usually got one shotted or got quality result. Today it is very much going nowhere and is stuck in reasoning loops. Probably someone should build nerf tracker, because this is quite common that models get substantially worse once PR hype wears off and they quantise them more or simply route requests to older models with system prompt changed to say it is Astra and not Sol etc. |
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| ▲ | cbg0 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Not Astra but Sol hasn't been nerfed: https://marginlab.ai/trackers/codex/ |
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| ▲ | varispeed an hour ago | parent [-] | | That is not conclusive, because they can detect such tracker and route it through proper not quantised model. | | |
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| ▲ | d_tr 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| How and why do they get nerfed? To save money? |
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| ▲ | johnfn an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Models do not get nerfed. There has never been evidence of this. This would be trivial to prove if it were true, and such a proof would be a huge story and scandal to a news market hungry for a shred of a signal on AI's downfall. This is the "your iPhone is listening to you and serving ads based on what you say" of the 2020s. | | |
| ▲ | 4chandaily 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > This is the "your iPhone is listening to you and serving ads based on what you say" of the 2020s Of course, it turned out that this wasn't actually completely BS. We just were accusing the wrong vendor. Not disagreeing with you on models. | |
| ▲ | esafak 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes, they can, through quantization. Many providers of open source models openly serve quantized versions; check openrouter. |
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| ▲ | varispeed an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes. They save on compute and customer has to use more tokens to achieve their goal which means more profit. |
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