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BoorishBears 2 hours ago

This seems weirdly pessemistic: frontier labs have much stronger pretraining than most open weights models

And reading the release it feels very obvious this is also a ton of aligning their data mix with coding and science: we don't know that this model doesn't have terrible world knowledge or is ruined for anything related to subjective preference

They also repeatedly mention knowledge almost as if they saw that skepticism coming, but then limit knowledge to topics where more understanding of how code/scientific writing looks would produce the same graph as having actual world knowledge maintained.

That's not nefarious (they literally build coding models), but it also means the resulting model isn't necessarily competitive with a frontier model in a broader way.

This feels like the inverse approach to what Thinking Machines did with Inkling (trying to train as "un-spikey" a base model as possible)