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famouswaffles 3 hours ago

OpenAI have come out and said:

>The Wednesday evening statement from OpenAI was more emphatic: “We can say categorically that it is impossible for Dr. Buckmaster’s Codex prompts over the last two months to have influenced the system in any way, including training.”

>The statement added, “After investigating, we can say with full confidence that no user inputs past July 3rd could have influenced this system in any way.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/10/science/tristan-buckmaste...

pfortuny 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Apart from the well-known dubious position of OpenAI wrt truth, the prompts/inputs do mot include the outputs.

You can train on a sequence of outputs. In the end, OpenAI outputs are OpenAI's property.

You can learn a lot from a single side of a conversation.

karmasimida 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

But isn’t Tristan’s breakthrough happens in August? OpenAI can’t really train with text that doesn’t exist

crostlybostly an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

But using the outputs to train would make their statement false, since they are influenced by the inputs

irthomasthomas an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is there a reason they scoped that so narrowly to Buckmaster/codex/2 months

two people worked on this for a year before the breakthrough. Perhaps that earlier work reduced the search space sufficiently to brute force the problem with 10,000 agents?

bena 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is literally "We have investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing"

Why should we trust them?

ghostly_s 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What more are you hoping for? There is no legal matter at play, is the court of public opinion going to subpoena their records?

dekhn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Reputational risk- if they lie about this and get caught, it will have billion dollar implications for their business.

sensanaty an hour ago | parent [-]

Every single thing these companies do is dishonest and every word that comes out of the lips of these company execs is a lie, what fantasy land are you living in in which anyone with any amount of power gets punished for their lies?

dekhn 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

I don't engage with hyperbole.

nostrebored 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

what benefit do they get from making the statement? they could just say nothing. saying it and having it be untrue opens them to legal issues that are not worth the risk for this nothingburger.

freejazz 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What legal issues?