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ozgung 4 hours ago

If your rumor is true, what we are witnessing is a giant paradigm shift rather than individual incidents. Mathematicians were the first victims of super-intelligence.

Of course it’s not an endless source. They had to burn millions of dollars to solve a single problem.

pixl97 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>They had to burn millions of dollars to solve a single problem

I'd like to adjust that to "They had to burn a lot of energy (create a lot of entropy) to solve a single problem. As we go into the super-intelligence age the current paradigm of money as humans understand it may break at some point. For example to a paperclip-maximizer money at best is a short term instrumental goal, hard power of matter conversion machines is what it wants and once it has those money no longer has purpose.

ForHackernews an hour ago | parent [-]

I'd wager a fair chunk of my money that money breaks OpenAI before OpenAI breaks money.

7734128 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They "burn" a lot when they do benchmarks, while these runs can become valid roll outs for training. Perhaps less efficient than other data creation, but hardly burned in the same way.

Razengan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> were the first victims

Spinning it negatively like that doesn't do anybody good.

Were mathematicians the "victims" of calculators? of Matlab?

Were writers the ""vIcTiMs"" of word processors?? (apparently yes, according to old TV shows about computers during the 1980s, that you can see on YouTube)

> "tHiS iS nOt ThE sAmE" — Everyone every time.

No, just look it up. Look into old magazines and TV shows or newspaper articles from whenever a disruptive new technology came out.

contubernio 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What you say is true but ... This is qualitatively different than calculators or computers.

I'm a professional mathematician and all the better mathematicians I know are in crisis mode. Most of us hadn't taken this sufficiently seriously and don't know how to use these models effectively but we play with them and immediately see that the entire way we've worked all our professional lives has to change. We worry less about ourselves than about the younger folks. I've got good ideas ai still doesn't know about ... Younger folks may not get the chance.

azan_ 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s not the same. AI potentially completely replaces intellectual work without creating any* new jobs (*almost any - there will be some extra jobs for building data centers but that’s negligible).

Razengan 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

> without creating any new jobs*

So fucking make it so that people don't NEED "jobs"

It's about fucking time already.

Don't fucking try to hold back electricity just so people can still earn money by manually lighting street lamps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamplighter

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charcircuit 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Wouldn't that be chess players as the first victims?

calf 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Or protein folding as per Scott Aaronson.