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SpicyLemonZest 7 hours ago

This is absolutely not "common sense opsec". If I type information about some proof I'm exploring into a Google Doc, I do not worry even a tiny bit that the Docs team might forward it to a team of advanced mathematicians in case they have an advanced technique they want to show off by scooping me. That would be a crazy thing to do, nobody would even consider it, and if it happened Sundar would fire everyone involved.

I understand why the nature of AI products makes it harder to avoid this category of issue, nearly impossible to prove that it didn't happen if it could have, and easy to stumble into it without any human being intending harm. But those factors are exactly what people have in mind when they say OpenAI "steals" intellectual property! If OpenAI doesn't want people to be nasty to them, they'll have to find better solutions.

cma 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think Google does train on anything you put into docs if you aren't careful with the Gemini integration?

SpicyLemonZest 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, this is a problem with modern AI systems in general. It's not just OpenAI, and if you know any artists you know this is why they're pretty vehemently opposed to all AI.

lowbloodsugar 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s … Googles entire reason for making these “you don’t pay with money” tools. Did you not understand that?

HDThoreaun 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Google docs exists as a competitor to microsoft office. Google gives it away free to consumers for the same reason AI labs sell subscriptions for 10% of the price of the api. They hope businesses will switch to what employees know how to use.

SpicyLemonZest 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What? I don't understand how you even came up with this idea, much less consider it so obvious to condescend about it. Do you have even a single example of a research project that got scooped because the Google Docs team forwarded their private documents to someone?

lowbloodsugar 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Lol. That's not what I said nor what TFA is claiming. The claim is that private data is used for training.