But who are you going to believe? Multiple independent academic researchers or the CEO who was fired two years ago for gross dishonesty?

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Robotbeat 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Neither? Competitive academic researchers are susceptible to exaggeration and self-aggrandizing, and CEOs are that and also mostly psychopaths. I tend to think there isn’t systematic spying on researchers looking for breakthroughs. A lot of people are looking for the same things using similar approaches.

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techblueberry 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean the accusation is that they were using private ChatGPT conversations. Given the extent to of the gold rush and the long history of Silicon Valley stealing ideas, and arguing it’s not immoral, It almost seems like your making the exceptional claim that this is the one time where Silicon Valley didn’t use information that was at their disposal.

Sam Altman might himself be offended you would presume he’s not ambitious enough to cheat.

	▲	HarHarVeryFunny 7 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It seems that in this case OpenAI are suggesting that the researchers whose work they scooped were using OpenAI models with an account setting that allowed OpenAI to train on anonymized prompts. It seems that Buckmaster and Levant (who is an Anthropic employee) were rather naive in the amount of trust they had in OpenAI, with Buckmaster going so far as to contact OpenAI's Sébastien Bubeck to discuss what they were working on and clarify that contrary to rumor this was a private collab.
	▲	Enginerrrd an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> Given the extent to of the gold rush and the long history of Silicon Valley stealing ideas, and arguing it’s not immoral Not just Silicon Valley but also OpenAI, specifically.

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bigstrat2003 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If Sam Altman tells you the sky is blue, you should double check. I certainly hope nobody believes him when he claims controversial things from which he stands to benefit.

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faangguyindia 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Sam Altman has provided people with more generous usage than Claude or Gemini.

There is no doubt ChatGPT is the most generous LLM provider!

	▲	dessimus 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Just because a guy is giving you free meth, doesn't make him generous.

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faangguyindia 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

More like, "Who are you going to believe: a multi billionaire, or people competing for a million dollar math prize?"

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cindyllm 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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