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bnastic 2 hours ago

Apple Music, Netflix, Disney+, BBC.

That's four. I don't want any of them.

Three I have to take due to kids' nagging, the fourth I have to take due to state apparatus' nagging and legal threats.

eptcyka an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I never paid for the licence for I never used iPlayer and the investigators were welcomed into my house to take a look at the chromecast dongle.

jbs789 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The TV license is insane to me, as a non-brit moving to the uk. I am happy to pay a reasonable price for something I use. But the threats I get about a GBP 1,000 is very un-british. I don't know who runs the TV licensing scheme but they need to be sacked. Thankfully if you can look past this gamesmanship then it is possible to call them and decline to participate in this nonsense.

amiga386 19 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

"TV licensing" exists in a lot of countries and it funds the public service broadcaster. It is essentially a tax, it just happens to be collected by a third party (in this case, Crapita) rather than other tax collecting mechanisms.

Some countries (like Finland or Switzerland) require you to pay it even if you don't own a TV. It's really just a tax.

The reasoning for it not being a tax is that the public service broadcaster should have political independence from the government. Most people don't want their country to have a "government mouthpiece" state broadcaster, and it is much easier for the government to tell the broadcaster what to do and say by fucking with its funding if it's directly funded from the treasury.

Other countries do the same thing with a different trick, such as inserting it into your electricity bill.

The UK is a powerhouse in media production, part of that is due to the BBC funding all sorts of productions, both the visible (actors, etc.) and the invisble (camera operators, set designers, costumers, writers, directors...).

It has also been clear for centuries that private media, historically just the newspapers, but now TV channels, film studios, etc., have been disastrous, as their private owners either focus on profitability and pump out scandal and lurid stories, or if they've made their millions some other way, they run a paper in order to pump out biased propaganda. So a state-funded but not state-controlled broadcaster is an ideal thing to have.

nottorp an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The "licensing" has a point because it does make the BBC more impartial since the current government cannot adjust their funding down or up depending on their programming.

However, the same aim could be achieved by just setting a formula in law. 1 pound per british citizen, or 0.0001% of the average income per citizen last year. Numbers pulled out of ass as i have no idea what an UK tv license costs. As long as they make the formula extremely hard to change, it will work.

zelos 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

£180/year (£60 for black and white only!). It is becoming increasingly hard to defend given the low quality of a lot of their output.

If they could find a way to fund Radio 4 without it I'd be in favour of scrapping the fee.

nottorp 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

Hah, considering the surviving B&W TVs are collector's items now, you probably can't save money by getting the cheaper license...

mystifyingpoi an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Easy, just make kids pay for these, if they need them this much.

jaffa2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Tell your kids ‘no’

Bring some sanity back to the world.

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