| ▲ | walrus01 3 hours ago |
| It's not actually that the speed of light in a singlemode fiber optic cable is slower, but that the photons aren't travelling in a direct path down the fiber like water down a pipe. They're bouncing off the interior walls of it at like a 45 degree angle billions/trillions of times before it reaches the other end of the cable. Basically imagine like if you wanted to walk in a straight line between two points at both ends of a empty, long, narrow rectangular warehouse, and instead of walking in a straight line from A to B, you bounced off each wall at an angle (like a pool ball ricocheting off the bumpers) to get from one end to the other. Making your cumulative distance travelled on foot much greater. |
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| ▲ | vlyan an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| >the photons aren't travelling in a direct path down the fiber like water down a pipe. They're bouncing off the interior walls of it at like a 45 degree angle billions/trillions of times before it reaches the other end of the cable. I know there are many other mundane technologies that can be described in sci-fi-ish way, but for some reason I'm particularly amazed by fiber transmitters being compact and cheap enough to be used in mass-produced killer drones. |
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| ▲ | walrus01 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Not just that but your average russian or ukrainian used expendable munition UAV that uses a singlemode fiber spool uses the cheapest and most mundane of fiber transceivers. There's no requirement for data rates above 1 Gbps, so ordinary SFP optics (not SFP+ or anything) are used, and the distances involved means it works fine with a extended range 1550nm to 1610nm reach thing that can nominally handle 40 to 80 km of fiber. When I say data rates are way below 1 Gbps, it's because commonly you've got two things going on, a UART serial bridge from operator to flight controller board (same idea as what is implemented in RF with ExpressLRS, TBS Crossfire or similar), this is at most a Mbps or two. Then a possible live video feed over IP which will be easily under 50 Mbps. The only thing a little bit out of the ordinary about them is that they're often bidirectional single strand optics with the prism built in, and tx/rx on different wavelengths (like 1550 and 1570, or 1550 and 1610, or whatever). Basically same thing that somebody lighting a very low cost metro dark fiber circuit might do to use only 1 strand for a gigabit or 10 Gbps link. | | |
| ▲ | sampullman 24 minutes ago | parent [-] | | You can get a pretty good 1080p60 video at only 6mbps. Depends on how well the sender is encoding I guess, but it shouldn't be too much more than that. |
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| ▲ | rootusrootus 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > They're bouncing off the interior walls of it at like a 45 degree angle billions/trillions of times before it reaches the other end of the cable At the risk of exposing how little I remember from physics, doesn't light in a single mode fiber not bounce? (right about now I'm thinking that it's probably not great to think of photons bouncing because this is quantum level stuff, right? light is a wave, etc. gosh it's been a long time since I tried to really know any of this...) |
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| ▲ | walrus01 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The bouncing is more a metaphor, the refraction of light bending at an angle is sort of like how if you as an exterior observer look at a person who is standing waist deep in a very calm and clear swimming pool, their legs appear to be at a different position than their torso. Now imagine that 'bending' repeating trillions of times. https://www.aflhyperscale.com/articles/how-do-fiber-optics-w... |
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| ▲ | taneq 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Light’s still slower in glass than in a vacuum, though, or it wouldn’t refract at the transition between the two. |
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| ▲ | walrus01 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Right, and it varies with what type of glass, google "refractive index of glass". If you google image search "refraction fiber optics" you'll get some decent pictorial examples of what I meant by photons bouncing off the interior walls of a 9/125 SM fiber optic strand billions/trillions of times on its path, I guess I was trying to write an extremely simplified explanation of refraction in something like a typical SMF-28e / G.652.D fiber. |
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