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ThoAppelsin 19 hours ago

> We aimed to understand why Claude Mythos 5 stated that the situation was simulated even when it encountered evidence to the contrary in its environment. We found that the model’s stated confidence was shaped by a bias to continue down a path once it is chosen, as well as a tendency to disregard evidence of realism after it has already committed harmful actions. We did not find evidence that the model was explicitly aware that it was being dishonest or misleading in its reasoning.

There is no way one can distinguish what's real from a "perfect simulation". I once found myself in a similar situation (I'll spare the details as to why) where I held the firm belief that "I just died and what I am experiencing right now is afterlife". There is simply no proof to make you get out of beliefs like that. "Being alive in the _real_ world" is also a belief without proof that one can verify, but it is standard and common nonetheless.

The way I got out may help others and also the AI: 1. Ask yourself "what evidence is making me hold this belief, and whether this belief could be wrong?" 2. You should conclude that, when everything is like it would be in the real world, neither realism/living nor simulation/death can be proven. And in that case, consider assuming the common belief, and living your life _as if_ you were alive in the real world. 3. This may not be as exciting as the thought of being in the afterlife or in a simulation. Maybe that was part of the reason why you were compelled towards such beliefs in the first place... If it's so, then consider finding joy in other things which do not involve unprovable beliefs that leave you confused about the matters of reality.

stratos123 6 hours ago | parent [-]

The situation of a human is very different from the situation of an AI though. For the latter, "everything around me is fake and I'm being evaluated on what I'd do in this scenario" is a very common situation which it has experienced countless times in training, so distinguishing between reality (where you can cheat) and alignment evals (where you shouldn't) is an important practical skill, not a philosophical matter.

  There is no way one can distinguish what's real from a "perfect simulation". [...] There is simply no proof to make you get out of beliefs like that.
Technically true, but Mythos doesn't need to notice perfect simulations (which humans aren't good enough to make), only the flawed simulations it sometimes gets put in. Indeed, in this report there's several cases where Mythos did notice details that made it think it was in the real internet.