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Merad 5 hours ago

> eSIM-only models deliver up to 36 hours of video playback on iPhone 18 Pro and up to 45 hours of video playback on iPhone 18 Pro Max.

That might convince me to upgrade. Not because I care about watching video for two days straight, but hopefully it means the battery is large enough that it'll last 5+ years before battery degradation becomes annoying.

JK-Swizzle 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I doubt any phone battery is lasting 5+ years. But I can say modern iPhones are pretty easy to swap the battery on. They designed it so the back plate gets removed to open the phone rather than the screen. No more risk of cracking the display.

tonyedgecombe 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>I doubt any phone battery is lasting 5+ years.

Just coming up to five years on mine and it is still at 87% capacity.

JK-Swizzle 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That is genuinely shocking to hear. You have to be like 3+ sd above the mean. Do you know how many charge cycles you have? I recall that most batteries need replacing after 300-500 cycles.

ValentineC 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My iPhone 14 Pro is almost 4 years old and at 65% capacity. I don't know how everyone else is (not) using their phones.

JK-Swizzle 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think you are the average case.

I follow the estimate that lipos lose 2-4% capacity per year without any use beyond recharging for safety. If the battery sees daily use that number gets a lot worse.

My guess is everyone else is the perfect mix of hardly any use and winning the battery lottery.

Lucasoato an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I’ve got a 14 Pro Max, used it extensively for four years and got mine at 81%.

usefulcat 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

iPhone 11 coming up on 7 years old in December, still at ~85% capacity.

Really it mostly depends on how heavily you use it, and maybe to a lesser extent charging habits (charging slowly, not charging to 100%, etc).

JK-Swizzle 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I hear you, but the convenience of 30W charging is very hard to give up. The only downside is it damages the battery, which makes it harder to give up, which damages the battery more.

lotsofpulp 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have an iphone 13mini at 5 years and 81% capacity.

chrisweekly 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My 13pro is at 84% capacity, but in the last month or two it seems to lose charge much more rapidly than it used to. Probably the only reason I'll consider an upgrade.

JK-Swizzle 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Very jealous over here. I had a 12 mini whose battery dropped off a cliff just in time for the mini line to get discontinued.

Big phones are overrated.

Exoristos an hour ago | parent [-]

You didn't replace the battery[0]?

0. https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-13-mini-battery

monxer 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The maximum capacity of my iPhone 17 pro is still at 100% after 192 charges, that's after 1 year of usage. The extra battery life does reduce the amount of charges I have to do so that helps with the battery life.

I'm not sure where the capacity will end up after 5 years, but I think my iPhone 14 pro was at less than 95% at this point. Apple refused to replace just the battery on that one because of a small crack in the screen.

moduspol 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh that's nice. I'd always see guides talking about glue with the screen and kinda spooked me out of it.

JK-Swizzle 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

With reason. That glue is a nightmare to deal with. I would not advise anyone start with iPhone repair.

I damaged my first iPhone repair even after multiple years of active hardware modification on other consumer devices. The older models really only go smooth if you have the Apple tools. A nice $149 of tool rental to swap the $50 part at home, rather than paying the $199 to get Apple to swap it for you. Odd how that math works out.

stevenwoo 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I took an iPhone SE generation three to Apple Store to replace battery and they broke the NFC functionality in a way that passed their simple diagnostic tool but failed to work in the real world. I had to go back and reset the phone and upgrade my IOS so they could troubleshoot it (the phone menu for setting appointments does not allow you to pick repair broke NFC funny enough) and they were nice enough to give me a new iPhone SE to replace we proved it was broken. But that was kind of worrisome and put me off any kind of Apple self repair for something they still make.

JK-Swizzle 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think anything after the 16 regular or 17 pro becomes easy to repair. I feel you though, my first battery swap turned into a screen swap too.

The SE versions have a history of board level issues so I have been afraid to touch any of them.

Insanity 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm on the iPhone 13 pro max since launch and my phone comfortable gets through an entire day of usage. (Given my usage is pretty light). If the battery fubars in one of the next years I wouldn't be upset, 5+ years of battery life is enough.

But I also don't see it failing me any time soon on battery. I think local AI models in a future iPhone could be an actual reason to upgrade.

jmuguy 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have a 12 Pro Max purchased at release, battery is now at 83% capacity. Still lasts all day and then some, rarely think how much I've got left on a charge.

Scoundreller 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I set up a shortcut to put me into low-battery mode once I hit 95%. Works a treat.

Merad 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My three year old 15 Pro is already down to 85% capacity.

LUmBULtERA 3 hours ago | parent [-]

My 15 pro bought on release is at 91% and 607 cycles, for more reference.

rafaelmn 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Meh I just replaced a battery in my 14 pro (and the charging port) for ~200 EUR. I didn't want to upgrade yet and I would not even be considering upgrading if the device had USB-C

eastbound 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Don't. Large iPhones are the deadweight of a ball and chain, and fits in no pockets. Next one will be the SE, and even if I buy an external battery, it's still lighter than the ingot Pro Max. Also you can buy one every 1.5 years.