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tensor 12 hours ago

No one needs a compromise. The world (except the US) agreed to use this new map together. It's not a conflict.

bawolff 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

UNGA votes are non binding symbolic grandstanding. This vote does not mean the world agreed to it. its more like the world agreed to think about it.

Will countries actually change their map projections? That has yet to be seen. Maybe they will, maybe they won't That has yet to be seen.

kspacewalk2 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To say that "the world agreed" on something based on a General Assembly resolution is an interesting claim, if rather bold.

mdp2021 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Somebody who does not represent anybody "agreed" - not us.

holgerschurig a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

Well, the underlying thinking "only people I directly voted for can do things" is wrong. I guess you never directly voted for your minister of economy, or? In many countries people don't directly vote for the prime minister, chancellor etc.

The key term some people never learned in school is "direct democracy" vs. "indirect democracy".

Even many clubs, e.g. in Germany the ADAC, have systems where people vote for an assembly (or, in politics: a parliament). And then the assembly vote fot ehri CO (or, in politics, for their chancellor). Now, it can happen that this chancellor together with 26 other head of states is a member of the Europen Council (EUCO, one of the 7 bodies of the EU, what btw most people all the time intermingle). And that this EUCO now votes on their president.

In your logic, this presidency of the EUCO is then null and void. Because not directly elected by citizens of the EU.

In my logic, I realize that this position is removed from the people, but it still done by a democratic process. A multi-stage process, but still democratic. And that it still has some bearing.

Asking for the whole world population having an election on e.g. the UN Secretary General --- under the implication that only this would give representation --- is bogus.

tensor 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm Canadian. Canada represents me. They voted on this. That's how the world works. Sometimes my government is not the one I voted for and my interests are not represented, or sometimes my interests are not the majority in my country. That's life.

No one is forcing you to use the new map, you can keep your old map. No one will arrest you for it. Enjoy!

andsoitis 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

By when is Canada going to be using the new map?

nisegami 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Representing a 3D sphere-like surface on a 2d plane definitionally requires compromise.

sgc 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

One can still note a poor decision based on its merits.

An equal area projection map is obviously valuable. But it's practically asinine to pick a projection that distorts land features when there are several equal area projections that do not.

Further, Ukraine had to abstain from this vote because they shoehorned in something ridiculous considering the official position of the UN members that Crimea is Ukraine [1], and Crimea is depicted as outside of Ukraine.

I have no idea if there are other hidden yet important changes, since there is hardly any commentary apart from size and shape.

[1] https://ukraine-war-analytics.com/history/international-reco...

jsLavaGoat 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"The world" is not represented by the UN General Assembly. Did you vote for your representative?

raincole 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The UN does not dictate which map you or your government or your school or Google uses.

jsLavaGoat 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I didn’t say it did, I said the UN is not a democratic body. He said the world decided. What is your problem?

andsoitis 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

You didn’t in fact use the word democratic at all. You used the word “represent”.

Muromec 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I didn't vote for a foreign minister of my country, but his job is to represent my country, including in UN. This is fine.