| ▲ | urams a day ago |
| "Palantir-like" I guess you've chosen to do the editorializing for the writers in lieu of their presence here. |
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| ▲ | culi 18 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Well they're also actually partnering with Palantir too. Claude was the model integrated into their Maven system that helped the US military determine targets in Iran (including the Minab elementary school) |
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| ▲ | cma a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Explain, it looks like samdesk is in a more narrow domain but overlapping and very related methods and business. Un-palantir-like seems like it would be a stronger editorialization. |
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| ▲ | bri3d a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Palantir sell consulting services ("forward deployed engineering") around graph and map database platforms, using data supplied by customers. Some of their customers ask them to make surveillance aggregation systems, others ask them to make totally banal and random enterprise software (this is why you commonly see freak-outs around hospitals buying "Palantir," for example; usually they are operating as consultants making some kind of medical records warehousing system owned by the customer). Samdesk provide risk analytics using traditional risk analysis investigation and research, which they have now welded an "AI platform" to, like everyone does these days. They aggregate crime and protest data to make a map of "places your employees might be at risk" and sell it to companies. Samdesk would be a Palantir _customer_ if they liked parting with their money, not a competitor; Palantir operate at a much "lower level" and don't do the data collection or research on their own. | |
| ▲ | urams a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | If by "overlapping and very related methods" you mean "use any form of data analysis whatsoever" then, yup, they are basically the same company. | | |
| ▲ | cma 18 hours ago | parent [-] | | If I heard Palantir-like I wouldn't assume something like a perfect mirror competitor company. |
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| ▲ | laimewhisps a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| They are literally a Palantir competitor: https://www.samdesk.io/about-us |
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| ▲ | urams a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Weird that they don't compare themselves to Palantir then! https://imgur.com/a/eKAQKSN | | |
| ▲ | laimewhisps a day ago | parent [-] | | Why would you take any of these companies at their word? They know Palantir is toxic. | | |
| ▲ | urams 20 hours ago | parent [-] | | Your 4D chess model of their thinking is that the risk they run of mentioning a direct competitor, that their potential customers would also be considering, is so great that the value of that comparison is dwarfed by the costs of the risk, so they don't do it. This is some next level strategic thinking. I have to wonder, though, why doesn't Palantir mention them? https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Apalantir.com+samdesk They seem to mention actual competitors: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Apalantir.com+c3 Given your 4D chess logic, they really should be mentioning all their competitors to poison their wells. | | |
| ▲ | laimewhisps 20 hours ago | parent [-] | | This isn't as complicated as you're making it. Both companies market themselves as surveillance tools for oppressive regimes. Flock is similar. Do they have exactly the same business model? No. But their brand is spying on the public and protecting those in power. | | |
| ▲ | urams 19 hours ago | parent [-] | | "Motte? Meet Bailey." > Both companies market themselves as surveillance tools for oppressive regimes. Look at some of these "surveillance tools" that they are marketing to "oppressive regimes". Their website brags about these deeply oppressive surveillance features: - Identifying material threats to your workforce
- Integration with Concur and your HRIS Look at some of the "oppressive regimes" they sell to, such as the evil Amnesty International: https://imgur.com/a/U4Zef3x | | |
| ▲ | laimewhisps 19 hours ago | parent [-] | | We're literally commenting on an article where this company tracked anti-AI activists and Anthropic actioned on that. | | |
| ▲ | urams 19 hours ago | parent [-] | | We're literally commenting on an article where Samdesk flagged a public protest to Anthropic security and Anthropic employees chose to not go by it. The absolute EVIL of a public protest being avoided by people is UNSPEAKABLE. That a company would ever even consider offering information about public protests to people is OPPRESSIVE. | | |
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| ▲ | crimsoneer a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is not at all what Palantir OR SamDesk does. SamDesk processes and sells data (eg, has agreements with various news/social media websites etc and converts that to a nice API of events). Palantir sells software to use all sorts of data, including stuff like SamDesk (hence why I suspect plenty of Palantir customers are ALSO SamDesk customers). They're complimentary rather than competing products. |
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