I think facts would be helpful for this discussion:

1. Total Revenue - ~$500m-$700m

2. Copies Sold - ~15-20m

3. Steam Review Score: 84.36%

4. 40 Free Major Updates

I don't know where the negative comments are coming from. Maybe players who played early.

NMS is a great example of a developer who was devoted to their customer base, kept updating the game for free, and saw great market success in return.

This is a story to be celebrated.

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viktorcode 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

As someone who played this game on start I want to share that I enjoyed it. This game was and still is a chill exploration experience at the core. There’s a lot of stuff bolted on top, but it’s just a busywork. If you enjoy that kind of games you’ll love it.

Another thing to point out: technical patching is top notch. I’m talking about how fast they come around to support new console, new VR helmet etc.

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kjs3 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I enjoy games based on content and gameplay, not volume.

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goatking 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think anyone disagrees and I don't really see negative comments about the devs or the studio.

The problem is the game itself, gameplay wise. It's just boring for many (including me)

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BrokenCogs 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Somewhat of an aside but, personally, I also found GTA V and Red dead redemption 2 to be boring because these games didn't respect my time. I could play for two hours and still feel like I accomplished nothing except for "interacting with the world".

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rc5150 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

'I could play for two hours and still feel like I accomplished nothing except for "interacting with the world"'

Funny how this is exactly the same sentiment I feel about NMS. Go figure, different strokes, ya know?

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simoncion 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> I could play for two hours and still feel like I accomplished nothing except for "interacting with the world".

Two hours is like three or twelve story missions, depending on where in the story you are. Did you spend most of that time farting around doing stuff that wasn't main story [0], or are you just not really into the stories being told? IME, Rockstar's 3D games have always been not-all-that-great third-person shooters, but made up for it with the storytelling and world-building.

> ...because these games didn't respect my time.

If I were Global Overlord for a month, I'd permanently banish the sentiment "This video game doesn't respect my time". It's fine to say "This game bored me." or "I just didn't enjoy this game.". Unless we're talking about predatory "free" to "play" games [1] that survive by deliberately reaching deep into the wallets of whales, mixing pride into the discussion and claiming the injury of disrespect is very silly.

[0] ...of which Red Dead 2 has an absolute assload -most of which will bore folks to tears who don't really dig the "late 1800's outlaw going on about his day" thing-, and GTA V has a fair bit...

[1] Games that you have to pay up front to play can also belong in this category.

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heggy 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

RDR2's intro absolutely did not respect my time. I sat down with an hour free to play it, and in that time, I did not reach a save point. There was some story, but it was very slow, and I had precisely zero interest in repeating it. I ran out of time, turned it off and never came back.

	▲	andybak 34 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Same. I really want to play it but - I feel I need to skip the first hour to do so?

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BrokenCogs 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Almost all of the story missions are: 1) walk/drive/ride to this place 2) Talk to NPC 3) Do an extremely boring task (follow someone, drive somewhere, etc) 4) Walk somewhere else 5) Talk to someone else. 6) Collect XP or another reward.

Most of it is not enjoyable gameplay.

	▲	ZeWaka an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah. Like, the train heist and other cool gameplay segments were fun. But the missions to go to some random town and talk to someone and escort them back? Horrible.

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uzish 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you enjoy similar games (vast open worlds, resource collection/management, crafting)?

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t-writescode 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s fine, it has a sustained concurrent players online of > 7k every day for the last 6 months [0]. Few games on Steam achieve that.

While several people are complaining about a one-time-cost game with an absurd amount of updates that had a rough launch, thousands of people are continuously happy, the subreddit expresses joy. It’s okay to “not get it”; but at some level, this much hate and dogpiling over a game that’s not harmful and not fostering a toxic community is … embarrassing for those participating in the hate.

[0] https://steamcharts.com/app/275850#6m

	▲	uzish 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That's another great point. And the general trend (ignoring the peaks of releases) is trending upward which is especially rare on Steam.

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