| ▲ | altcognito 10 hours ago |
| People really need an entire article to justify labeling someone as having a mental illness because in their opinion, the their coworker isn't contributing meaninfully, or potentially making things worse. FTA:
> Prolific AI psychosis occurs when a person generates a large quantity of AI output without significantly increasing the real value of their work. Guy, we used to just call this a bad coworker. I'm pretty sure that the "psychosis" will be abused by folks that just don't like AI. You already see it everywhere. |
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| ▲ | recursive 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Guy, we used to just call this a bad coworker. Not that long ago. People generating large quantities of AI output is a relatively recent phenomenon. At least when compared to labels like this. |
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| ▲ | 2PqboPPmKegvanx 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | its the same individuals in my experience. i don't see people who used to be good employees suddenly sending a 3000 word email, but i sure do see that out of the people who were bad coworkers 12 months ago and still are today. | |
| ▲ | altruios 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | low effort work though, that's nothing new... accelerating that low effort: that is new... but the low effort work hasn't been changed by ai: only illuminated more clearly. |
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| ▲ | _verandaguy 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'll disagree, I think AI meaningfully changes the definition of a bad coworker because its main interface emulates talking to another human being closely enough that some people value its conversational input equally or more highly than that of actual human beings. I think that this is exacerbated by many LLMs defaulting to placating, complementing, and otherwise reinforcing biases in their users, and it will often produce just enough evidence to make its (and its user's) position seem compelling, while that evidence is often either tangential, orthogonal, or straight-up hallucinated. Humans aren't perfect vessels for information, but working on a reasonably-qualified, healthy team, a degree of respectful professional disagreement has always been the norm, and that covers both cases where the disagreement comes from a genuine matter of opinion, as well as cases where one colleague cross-checks anothers' assumptions and finds some of them to be wrong. That's the process. |
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| ▲ | onlyrealcuzzo 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Song as old as time - people were doing this well before AI, there's just yet another reason for these types of people to categorize workers and pretend that management can be perfect and easy and that the world isn't hard. It's almost as if it's a little bit harder than people think to figure out how good people are at their jobs and who deserves promotions, etc, and that maybe they may not have the most perfect unbiased judgements. |
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| ▲ | js8 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I was bound to agree with you before I RTFA. The classification is useful for a psychiatrist, i.e. someone who wants to help the person. "Bad coworker" can have many causes. In prolific AI psychosis, I think the assumption (differential diagnosis) is, they became a "bad coworker" due to use of AI, so they were a "good coworker" before. |
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| ▲ | altcognito 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | As someone else point out, the term is stigmatizing, psychosis is a very strong term, and as I very much noted, already being misused and abused. |
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| ▲ | beepbooptheory 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You certainly seem to have your mind made up about this either way, but a humble fwiw nevertheless: the author is a psychiatrist, not some bitter dev/hypothetical coworker like you seem to be suggesting. |
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| ▲ | altcognito 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | I did dig into that after I read it. Even more depressing honestly. He should know better than to throw around labels. | | |
| ▲ | ethin 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Sorry but the pro-AI/AI boosters do the exact same thing when they say that people who don't use AI are "Luddites" and the like. And I'm pretty sure the Luddite thing has been going on for far longer than the AI psychosis labeling. | | |
| ▲ | altcognito 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Also a luddite is not thought of as a danger to others. The label of psychosis implies otherwise. Luddite extends beyond AI Whataboutism is a plague. That said, calling folks luddites is an annoyance. |
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| ▲ | beepbooptheory 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Is it that psychiatrists in general could maybe use this label, but you know this one is doing it wrong? Otherwise, who is allowed to use the term? Doesn't it kinda inspire you at least a little to reflect on your understanding of the particular term? Or should we understand that to be faultless here? In general, the definition we need to have here is that psychosis is always extreme and violent and pretty much matching the cultural trope we have for it? And anything less is incorrect usage? Is that why you disagree in explicit terms? | | |
| ▲ | altcognito 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Is it that psychiatrists in general could maybe use this label, but you know this one is doing it wrong? Otherwise, who is allowed to use the term? I specifically take issue with the weak standard used. > Doesn't it kinda inspire you at least a little to reflect on your understanding of the particular term? Or should we understand that to be faultless here? Is there a way to read this that isn't insulting? Do I need to reflect on my understanding until it matches yours? > In general, the definition we need to have here is that psychosis is always extreme and violent and pretty much matching the cultural trope we have for it? And anything less is incorrect usage? Is that why you disagree in explicit terms? Never said any of that. It's a medical term and carries weight. Core symptoms are hallucinations and delusions. Here, delusions is not "my corporate product is better than your corporate product", it is not a strongly held belief that isn't real. We don't call belief in God psychosis. (some do, but that's beside the point) | | |
| ▲ | beepbooptheory 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Hey so sorry to insult! Cards on the table, I was certainly called to reflect on my assumptions about the term and its use when I read the article, but I can certainly see how that comment would feel ludicrous/offensive to someone so knowledgeable. Thanks here for the lesson. Just so I don't get in trouble in the future: is it correct or incorrect to assume psychosis is necessarily accompanied by violence? I only ask because you response to the sibling comment seems to contradict your response to me? But, as you can probably tell, I am not working with much brainpower over here, so I am sure I am just misunderstanding! |
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