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21asdffdsa12 4 hours ago

Every story told, is folded into the corpus of all human stories, all variations of the heroes journey, all variations of the hammon-cycle. AI by being trained on the corpus, is average - which makes it better than 80 % of mankind.

But we are tired of many stories. We see "new" movies until we are around 20 - then the repetition sets in- we get a refined taste and long for the exotic (-30) until finally, we search for outliers, for anything new, desperate under the sun.

AI can not provide that. But also humans can not provide that. Every bard, every writer, every poet, every band rises every morning to compete against the beatles. Most of them loose and thus abandon the craft to win bread elsewhere.

maldusiecle 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you seriously dig into literature or film you'll find that many of the stories don't fit into the hero's journey at all--or only fit if you make the "journey" so generic as to be practically tautological.

As for the claim about people's lives. People who are serious about art almost invariably keep enjoying the "basic" classics; many musicians keep listening to Bach all their lives. Faulkner claimed to read Don Quixote over again every year. It is possible to find novelty in the well-worn.

codeduck 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> But also humans can not provide that. Every bard, every writer, every poet, every band rises every morning to compete against the beatles. Most of them loose and thus abandon the craft to win bread elsewhere.

Most, but not all. For every 99 who give up and go and do something else, one transcends.

AI cannot create. Humans can. Most do not, but the possibility is always there that they could.

skeledrew 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> AI cannot create

Say what now?

- https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/ai-is-inventing-molecules-...

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/anishasircar/2026/04/17/ai-solv...

- https://www.nature.com/articles/s41524-025-01881-2

codeduck an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Now show me an AI coming up with General Relativity, or Integral Calculus, or Chopin's wrong note Etude.

AI builds on what comes before. Humans have an uncanny trait for creating things that are truly new.

skeledrew an hour ago | parent [-]

Can't exactly show since those things have already been discovered of course. But there is already a good list of AI discoveries out there in various fields, and it's still early days.

Humans also build on what comes before. Many of the "truly new" things that humans have created happened by accident, was discovered by brute force/experimentation, or are remixes of things observed in nature and/or already done by others. There is literally nothing a human can invent that a sufficiently capable AI can't also invent as the techniques are the same.

21asdffdsa12 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not something novel, usually - but i can reproduce recombination results with intuition, which is kind of close enough. Still it lacks the striking direction of an artist/great mind and averages out.

skeledrew an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Intuition is just detecting and following patterns, which AI is already very good at.

ausbah 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

but most of what humans create isn’t novel, esp in saturated areas like art. so even LLMs can “just do that” they’re very capable at outputting worthwhile materisl

codeduck an hour ago | parent [-]

"most of" being the key words.