How is it not obvious and fair that they are asking you to pay them when you see success (defined as >100K MAU)? How more aligned can you and them be besides this?

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Muromec 3 hours ago | parent [-]

When I buy I chair I don't pay a share of my income to the furniture shop when I get rich. I would buy another chair at some point too, maybe fancier one (or the same). Because chairs are commodity. I do however pay taxes to the government based on my income because it keeps doing ongoing maintenance on everything.

Everyone wants to be paid forever for something they produced once is some kind of a mind virus. Make me a better chair and maybe I will buy it, but don't expect to become a trillion dollar company. It's deeply unfair to everyone who wants to be a trillion dollar company of course.

What is really funny to me -- the ones that do make it to collect the rent indefinitely also decrease their own taxes paid to the government AND also decrease the amount of contribution to society by making less and shittier stuff.

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adhi001 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A model's weights can be pirated unlike a chair and that is the difference..?

	▲	HeatrayEnjoyer an hour ago \| parent [-]
		What does that have to do with the business model?

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handfuloflight 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Analogy doesn't apply to this case, as you are paying for the chair upfront but not paying for the model weights upfront.

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1dom 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The only reason my chair manufacturer would be entitled to the proceeds of my success whilst I was in their chair is if I hadn't already paid them for the work they put into making the chair for me. Even then, why would my success with their product have anything to do with how much they can charge me for their labour? What other things work like that outside of the modern tech world?

Seriously, look around you, pick a thing, imagine a world where the price you paid for that thing hinged on your personal individual success with that thing.

edit: to clarify, my point is why can't we pay for the model weights up front for offline models? Why would we continue paying for things we don't want/need anymore, like updates for offline software that does it's job fine?

	▲	handfuloflight 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		If they charged for the weights up front, then your critique would simply reverse.

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Muromec 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm also not downloading a chair, because why would it?

	▲	handfuloflight 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Exactly, so your analogy is useless.

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visarga 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> When I buy I chair

You should, sitting on that chair got you in the zone where you made it rich. /s