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TomBombadildoze an hour ago

Beats Opus 4.6 at what exactly? It certainly isn't code.

I use a combination of a Claude Max subscription and local inference, including qwen3.8-27b, 4bit. I have found qwen to be absolutely useless at anything but very specific, surgical code changes. In my experience, for anything even remotely nuanced, a frontier model is required.

kennywinker 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

https://artificialanalysis.ai/?models=qwen3-8-27b%2Cclaude-o...

Index methodologies here: https://artificialanalysis.ai/evaluations/artificial-analysi...

Also see some specific benchmarks here: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B e.g. qwen scores 61.7 on swe bench pro, while opus 4.6 scores 53.4.

If you want to argue with the benchmarks, go for it. Fwiw i am not saying qwen3.8-27b is better or as good as the frontier. But i am saying it has crossed the threshold and is now a useful tool for coding and debugging. From my experience, Qwen3.6-35b-a3b was what you describe - it could do surgical edits only.