1. Ad hominem. 2. No, LG is not perfect here and their TVs are bloated as fuck and they do questionable things privacy-wise. However, that still does not mean that they listen on every conversation, as shown in the video.

That nuance is important if you value good journalism.

Otherwise if we're just our here throwing random allegations because "corp bad", might as well say LG 's TVs are turning the frickin' frogs gay.

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stuaxo 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's not just questionable things, its using dark patterns to do things that wouldn't stand up in court because they definitely illegal in places with data protection laws.

Sorry but such contrary takes in the face of this sort of evidence are either contrary for the sake of it or paid astroturfing.

	▲	p0lychromatic 36 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I agree on the dark patterns. And I do not claim that ACR and all the privacy violating crap bundled into modern devices is good. No, it is evil. However, just because your TV does ACR, does not immediately mean they listen 24/7 through your TV through any conversations even if the TV is off. That is another, also quite different level of claim.

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lovich 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s the era of ai bots and coördinated agitprop from nation states.

Spend some time building your reputation before arguing for divisive topics or be ignored.

Consider it a mechanical Turk but for social trust.

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p0lychromatic 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

How do you build reputation if everyone starts tells you to build reputation first?

You have to start somewhere. Better makes sense to start looking at the arguments rather than the author.

It also helps you train your brain. Stop trusting someone solely because of who they are.

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lovich 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

This is hacker news. Not Reddit.

You can comment about anything here and build credibility.

Just don’t start on the most divisive topics.

	▲	handoflixue 15 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Four relevant bullet points from the Hacker News Guidelines: * When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. * Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. * Please don't post shallow dismissals * Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. And yet not once does it mention "don't start commenting on divisive topics"