| ▲ | toyg 2 hours ago |
| They paved paradise, and put up a parking lot. |
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| ▲ | mag7269 an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| Paradise? LA was a big giant horrible underdeveloped wasteland in Spanish/Mexican times which, at the time in 1849, had 1,600 residents. Most of them had a largely pastoral life and life was brutal there. LA under US rule is the prime example of what industrialized people can do to a place that lacked nearly everything of what it is at this moment: a world-class city. Objectively, if it had stayed under Mexican rule, it’d resemble Yuma at best or Tecate at worst. I should know, my family lineage goes back to that era to both sides of the border. |
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| ▲ | Hnrobert42 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Was it that a big, giant, horrible wasteland because it was undeveloped? That is, was there something bad about it other than being undeveloped? Personally, I love living in the city AND land in its natural state. Also, GP was quoting a song lyric. | | |
| ▲ | rustywasm 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I think the best intro to LA is Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner (it's really about the entire West and its relationship to water, but I think the first few chapters explain LA better than many other books.) |
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| ▲ | toyg 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | One's "underdeveloped wasteland" is someone else's untouched paradise. Particularly someone like Joni Mitchell. | |
| ▲ | thisismyopinion an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Funny. It's concrete hell. |
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| ▲ | lotsofpulp an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Is there an alternative if 13 million people want to live somewhere? |
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| ▲ | toyg 35 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Somewhat sadly, the reason a lot of the ancestors of those 13 millions moved there was that they wanted an unpaved paradise. Unfortunately, humans do not know restraint. |
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