Here are LG's contract terms for appliances.[1] They are awful.

Not only can they listen in. You have a contractual requirement to tell everyone in range of an appliance that they may be eavesdropped upon.

CONSENT REQUIREMENT: You acknowledge and agree that it is your sole responsibility to obtain all necessary consents from any third parties whose voices may be captured by the Product and to notify household members and guests that their voices may be captured and processed, in compliance with applicable wiretapping, eavesdropping, and privacy laws. If anyone does not consent, you should disable the microphone or voice features in the settings. LGE disclaims any liability for your failure to obtain such consent or provide such notification.

[1] https://www.lg.com/us/terms

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empyrrhicist an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Can that kind of clause really be enforceable? It really doesn't seem legal in any jurisdiction I'm aware of. (not a lawyer)

	▲	bjt 23 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		These (and other TOS agreements) fall under the category of "adhesion contracts". Because the buyer has no real ability to negotiate, any ambiguity is resolved in their favor. A judge can also strike provisions that a reasonable buyer would not expect, or that are unconscionable. So it's up to the judge's judgment. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/adhesion-contract.asp

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charcircuit 9 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It just reads as legal boilerplate. How else can voice recognition listen for a wake word without being able to process everything it hears.

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Obscurity4340 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can you actually even turn and keep the microphone off or does it toggle itself back on like Apple's Wifi and Bluetooth one-touch toggle off for now buttons?

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phony-account 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And yet what lawmakers focused on was getting your consent for a cookie on a website you were only going to visit once.

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MetaWhirledPeas an hour ago | parent [-]

The law has been unable to keep up with tech changes. Let's hope for the irony of AI helping them figure this stuff out.

	▲	lazide 26 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		why would it do that?
	▲	Glyptodon 25 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's not unable, the geriatric clowns and Trump bootlickers want this.