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Ancient cave art suggests first known humans in Ireland walked over from Wales(bbc.com)
33 points by bookofjoe 2 days ago | 8 comments
bookofjoe 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

https://archive.ph/jK7oX

nerdralph 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This doesn't make sense: "With summertime temperatures typically -10°C to -20°C". Maybe the negative was mistakenly added, and nobody noticed in editing? 10°C to 20°C would be reasonable for a "forested and grassland plateau".

Rumudiez a minute ago | parent | next [-]

it's reinforced in the same sentence after you cut off your quote and is repeated again further into the article:

> Nash said the caves would have been "quite a cosy place to live, especially compared with the -20°C outside".

rjsw an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There was an ice sheet starting just north of this area, it would have melted at 10°C.

illwrks 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Agreed, that jumped out at me also. Those numbers make no sense

rhdunn 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So this would suggest that the Goidelic languages (Irish Gaelic, Scottish Gaelic, Manx) are derived from the Brittonic languages (Welsh, Breton, Cornish). [1]

I wonder how this affects the different proto-Celtic to modern Celtic languages hypothesis. [1]

This would suggest the following language tree: Breton -> (Cornish / Welsh) -> Irish Gaelic -> (Manx / Scottish Gaelic).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_languages

biorach 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This migration predates the arrival of Celtic speakers by many thousands of years.

geocar 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There were no Brythonic languages 15,000 years ago.

What are you talking about?