The reason why Apple won is Steve Jobs cared about quality and was an asshole about it and the inertia from that after his death has not entirely decayed yet.

The people in that thread need a good Linus Torvalds style rant about their incompetence and several of them should just have been fired.

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herodotus 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes. When I was working at Apple, I was developing some animation stuff for Keynote. I came in to work one day, and my build was broken completely. Turned out that Roger Rosner had demonstrated this animation feature to Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs hated it, and before then end of the evening the code had been stripped from the Keynote build.

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vachina 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This rigor is also upheld to the ODM too. This is why we like to work with them, we all come out learning a lot at the end of the project.

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colechristensen 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How did/do you feel about that?

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herodotus 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Good. One of the things I loved about my years working at Apple is that everyone I had dealings with really cared about the user experience.

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knollimar 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Was the animation objectively bad? like was it bad for the user and he was right or were you wronged?

	▲	herodotus 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sorry - it was so long ago I really do not remember that particular feature.

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0xbadcafebee 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You don't have to be an asshole to get better quality work. But it's a great way to chase off talented staff that don't need to work with assholes.

	▲	deburo 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It’s also a great way to retain talent that care about working with like minded people.