Just don't buy a smart TV. Buy a good "dumb" TV (or just get a good large monitor), then hook it up to a set top box (with TV capabilities as needed).

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JoshTriplett 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That would be lovely. Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, nobody sells (for instance) high-quality 65"+ OLED non-"smart" TVs. "dumb TV" options are limited to older display technology.

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patrakov 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Try https://www.aorus.com/monitors/AORUS-FO48U/Key-Features - yes, it's a bit too small for you.

	▲	JoshTriplett 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Literally my current computer monitor, but no, does not work as a living room TV. (Also, would not recommend as a monitor; aggressive ABL and persistent messages about turning off for maintenance.) When I said 55+ I was talking about the whole size category larger than that, including 65, 77, etc.

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dwedge 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Projectors are probably the only remaining exception here, and obviously don't work in all use cases.

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lazystone 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Just a good large monitor" costs a fortune.

If anyone could recommend any dumb TV with good panels in EU, you're more than welcome.

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prmph 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you don't need something much larger than 43 inches, and you are cool with wide monitors, there are a couple ones that seem good:

- Samsung 40 inch Odyssey G7 (G75F) Series WUHD Curved Gaming Monitor (https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Odyssey-Curved-Gaming-Monitor...) -- $699.99

- Acer Nitro 49 inch DQHD 5120x1440 Curved 120Hz Office Monitor (https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Nitro-Gaming-Monitor-UltraWide/d...) -- $549.99

- Acer DM431K A 43 inch Class 4K UHD LED Monitor - 16:9 (https://www.amazon.com/acer-DM431K-Class-UHD-Monitor/dp/B0F3...)-- $334.20

- LG 37G800A-B 37 inch Ultragear 4K UHD (3840 x 2160) Curved Gaming Monitor, 165Hz, 1ms (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0FS3LV3WG) -- $598

- INNOCN 40C1R Ultrawide Monitor 40 inch WQHD 3440 x 1440p 144Hz (https://www.amazon.com/INNOCN-Ultrawide-Monitor-FreeSync-Pre...) -- $479.99

	▲	drcongo 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I have a 50" Philips screen with no smarts. It's great.

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nuxi an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I have a 43" Philips Ambilight (43PUS8510, 4K QLED). It's not a dumb TV per se, but you don't have to use any of the smart features, and - most important - you don't have to connect it to a network.

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arkx 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you want a good panel, you're going to have to buy a smart TV.

Just don't ever let it connect to the internet.

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nnevatie 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Buy a good "dumb" TV

Unfortunately, you can't have one without the other. The best, image quality -wise, TVs are all "smart".

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medwards666 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

... and that's the trick, isn't it. Have you ever tried going into an electrical store and buying a dumb TV any time recently?

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prmph 10 hours ago | parent [-]

See this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49596956

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clsec 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I bought a Sceptre a few years ago but it died pretty quickly (dead pixel strip on the screen). But the replacement 44" Insignia (Best Buy) that I replaced it with has been an awesome tv.

So yes, you can just walk into the Electronics Store (Best Buy) and purchase a dumb TV.

	▲	Marsymars 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Best Buy no longer produces dumb Insignia TVs.

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drcongo 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Side note: I can't be sure, but I may have actually been the person who coined "Dumb TV" 12 years ago [0] - I've been unable to find an earlier usage.

[0] https://andybeaumont.com/post/dumb-tv/

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drcongo 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't understand why the best advice in this thread is getting downvoted. Even if you buy a smart TV and then disable the smarts, you're still teaching the TV companies that smart TVs sell.