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xeyownt an hour ago

Why are people mixing everything up? Since when code has a soul?

AI can be just a tool. You use it the same way you use a keyboard, a computer, a pencil, etc. I'm pretty sure you can build art with it, much like using any tool. People are making art with ascii. You can do art with anything.

But AI can also be much more than a tool, and why can't it have a soul? What's a soul anyway, except something that humans are making up to convince themselves that they are more than flesh and bones? Mythos will not do the same "art" as Fable or Astra would do. AI in 20 years will very likely produce art indistinguishable and as profound as human art. Obviously, humans at that time will always invent new criteria to say why this "art" is not good enough.

trashb an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Since when code has a soul?

Since always, it is often just not recognized. Perhaps the same way how a newspaper article has soul and a fingerprint of the author, though you may not recognize it while reading.

> You can do art with anything.

Sure and anything you do can be art.

noduerme an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you don't know what a soul is, and you think it's something people just make up, then you are missing out on the experience of being human and you have a bigger problem than not being able to understand what art is.

red75prime 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

Is it this fuzzy blob of ineffable experiences, aesthetics, qualia, self-reference, dualism, spirituality and other things? I don't need to reject all this to notice that its fuzziness makes it impossible to operationalize.

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IanCal 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> But AI can also be much more than a tool, and why can't it have a soul? What's a soul anyway, except something that humans are making up to convince themselves that they are more than flesh and bones?

I’m finding this fascinating personally. The lines people are drawing to try and keep themselves inside some definition they can mark as special.

spankibalt an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> AI can be just a tool. [...] But AI can also be much more than a tool, [...].

Contradictio. Going back to Seven...

> AI can be just a tool.

Nothing, ever, is just a tool.

brabel an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Where’s the contradiction?? X can be just Y, and X can be much more than Y. No contradiction, just an observation that you can use it one way or another.

spankibalt 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

Nothing ever is just a tool. Saying that X "can just be a tool" is a fundamental violation of that statement; saying then "X can be much more than just a tool" is a violation in form of a contradiction. It's very easy to parse...

IanCal 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A banana and duct tape can be just a snack and a tool for fixing a leak.

stein1946 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> Nothing, ever, is just a tool.

Are you going to expand on this or should we stand in awe?