| ▲ | alephnerd 7 hours ago |
| The recipe is also similar to Hamedh [0], a delicacy in Iraqi and Baghdadi Jewish households. The only major difference is the addition of tomatoes thanks to the Columbian Exchange, and rice - which would have not been cultivated or traded in West Asia yet. On that note, in Arabic, Farsi, and Hindustani the word for Tomato is essentially shared (tumatar/tamatimu) with the English word "tomato". But anyhow, a lot of home cooking and traditional meals actually have a pretty long history. [0] - https://www.splendidtable.org/story/2000/12/12/hamad-iraqi-b... |
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| ▲ | dotancohen 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| > On that note, in Arabic, Farsi, and Hindustani the word for Tomato is essentially shared (tumatar/tamatimu) with the English word "tomato".
In the Levant we use the word بندورا "bindora" in Arabic for tomato. |
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| ▲ | amir_karbasi 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Actually, in Persian, tomato is literally translated as “western plum”. This is common in our language as we usually say “western” or “foreign” as a prefix to many things that were introduced to Iran (strawberries, sit-style toilets, etc) |
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| ▲ | thrdbndndn 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Chinese does the same thing, using prefixes like 西 (western), 番 (foreign), and 洋 (foreign) for introduced items. For tomatoes, interestingly, it has two common names that follow this pattern: *西紅柿*, literally translated as "Western Red Persimmon", and 番茄, literally translated as "Foreign Eggplant". Other produce examples include 番薯 (Foreign Yam) for sweet potato, 西瓜 (Western Melon) for watermelon, 洋蔥 (Foreign Onion) for bulb onion etc. | |
| ▲ | xattt an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | As an aside, tomatoes are golden apples (pomodoro), and oranges are Chinese apples (Apfelsin) in some languages. A lot of cultures appear to name botanicals using apples or, in GP’s context, stone fruit as “reference” points. | |
| ▲ | riffraff 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Interesting, in various European languages those tend to be "Turkish": turkey hens (the bird called turkey now), Turkish corn (maize), Turkish beans (long beans). Again, trade routes. | | |
| ▲ | idontwantthis 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | In Panama they say Chino for foreign versions and in Cambodia they say barang which literally means Frankish (via farang from Thailand). | |
| ▲ | oldandboring 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > maize Which, in turn, originated in Mexico and didn't make its way to Europe until the 1500s. |
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| ▲ | alephnerd 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Appreciate the clarification! | | |
| ▲ | amir_karbasi 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | My pleasure! I also find languages very interesting and have had the opportunity to grow up in a bilingual home and learn French and German. One more fun fact is that potato is a direct translation of the French “Pomme de terre” (“sib zamani” or “ground apple”). Back to the actual topic, this is a recipe that’s definitely worth trying. Persian shallots are actually more garlicky than oniony. A great addition to lamb dishes and yogurt. |
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