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mikeyouse 40 minutes ago

Not remotely true. Mens rea is a necessary precondition to establish criminal culpability for tons of crimes. Well before sentencing is ever considered. The far opposite, ‘strict liability’, where you’re guilty of a crime purely due to some action or inaction (the actus reus) is exceedingly rare in the US justice system.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/mens_rea

hn_throwaway_99 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

Baloney, lots of people go to jail for DUIs, and that's the right analogy here.

People don't drink and drive with the intention to kill people. They drink because it's fun and then get behind the wheel because it's easy and convenient, even though they know the dangers they convince themselves nothing that bad will happen.

AI companies are creating these dangerous, powerful models (that they keep telling us are dangerous and powerful), then they take off all the safety guards to run them in woefully inadequate "sandboxes". Pure negligence.

jdm2212 a minute ago | parent [-]

Drunk driving is an actus reus offense basically everywhere, so it's not analogous at all.