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Dumblydorr 4 hours ago

All writing is thinking when done by a human, you’re literally distilling your thoughts into words. You can’t write without thought.

And not all thinking is writing is a clear truism, there’s no point to even stating that.

Writing helps us think about the world, it’s a pivotal intellectual technology.

altmanaltman 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I have been thinking over this comment for a while now. I think yes, you are correct that thought is involved in writing but I don't think it is possible to claim "all writing is thinking when done by a human". Like what type of thinking are you claiming here?

Because one can copy a text and write it down and that involves thinking in the sense that anything we do involves thinking fundamentally. But that thinking is different from thinking logically about a concept and writing it down which I think is where you are getting at.

The definition of writing and thinking is too broad in that sentence even though it does apply in several obvious cateogires within that at different levels.

And also "writing helps us think about the world" is too broad again. Why? Why does me writing "apt apt apt apt apt apt apt" help me think about the world? I just wrote it because i felt like writing it. Why wouldn't you consider that writing?

lelanthran 37 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Why does me writing "apt apt apt apt apt apt apt" help me think about the world?

Poor example. You wrote it to make a point, after all.

max__dev an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You wrote "apt apt apt apt apt apt" to prove a very specific point no? Absolutely requires reasoning and understanding the problem to go there. And good luck getting an LLM to do that.

jampekka 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is an example of the problem. I did choose to write it in the way that although I knew it can be interpreted trivially, if the reader assumes I'm an imbecile. It was a "punchy" recap of the relatively long explanation for a HN comment and hopefully decently argued point.