This is the 'Not today, so never" fallacy. As capabilities in all fields are stagnant and human progress stands still. I would switch off the 'nam flicks and check out some of the recent Chinese robotics progress before attempting to peer into the future.

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ben_w 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I'd temper my views of the apparent recent Chinese robotics progress.

It's more than nothing, but there can still be a big gap between what is presented and the real timeline to follow; see e.g. the US example with Tesla's "Paint It Black" video, what was it, around a decade between the video and the AI getting to the level shown in that video?

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squidbeak 2 hours ago | parent [-]

My view doesn't need tempering. I talked about progress, which is indisputable, whatever its pace or current limitations might be. And that was the entire point: robotics is not a stagnant field.

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ben_w 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> I talked about progress, which is indisputable, whatever its pace or current limitations might be

It's extremely disputable, and indeed disputed. Just as with my example of Tesla's video, it's easy to fake progress.

All it comes down to right now is a cynicism dial.

That said, I just realised I've conflated two things which I find annoying when other people conflate: AI and robotics.

	▲	squidbeak 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		China's robots are not Tesla's.