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nolok an hour ago

The European parliament and US congress are both just as united and fragmented.

We disagree internally until we find a common posture that we adopt.

I'm not sure why you talk California public sector instead of something involving multiple states that have differing views, that makes your comparison useless, that's why I say US congress.

Note that your misunderstanding of the situation and lack of knowledge about it is not rare per se, to give an exemple that's why a fair amount of brexiter politician were surprised the EU didn't break itself in internal fight over the UK deal (while they were used to the inside squabble when they were a member, and they failed to notice the similarity with their own parliament compared to their country).

inglor_cz 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

The EU-related structures in Brussels are about as united/fragmented as the US Congress, indeed.

But the national governments are nothing like US state governments. A lot more political fragmentation, plus they still consider themselves executives of sovereign nations with various vital interests and also historic resentments. Few Californian politicians will base their programs on suspicions towards New Mexico. In Poland, "don't kowtow to the Germans" is still a living idea and current PM Tusk is regularly accused of doing precisely that.

2III7 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The European nations are not unified similarly to the USA because we do not have the common history of being a bunch of immigrant colonies glued together.

3938848484 15 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Exactly. I'd even go as far as saying German overreach and arrogance ten years ago killed the EU for good. Before that it genuinely felt people were at least trying. Now it's a walking corpse.