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graemep 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> The 1% are mostly religious

I think this assertion needs evidence as it seems more probable to me that the rich are anti-religious. In any country where Christianity is the main religion it is a very unattractive belief for the rich (the "eye of the needle", "root of all evil" and "give all you have to the poor" ethos). Most other religions are suspicious of wealth too (to a Buddhist it is an attachment) In the UK we had a recent prime minister (Tony Blair) who concealed his religious beliefs. In the US JD Vance has been illustrating how difficult it is for a person in power to reconcile that with mainstream religious belief.

Of course you preface all this with the assumption that you are right about reality yourself which is a whole other argument.

watwut a day ago | parent [-]

> Christianity is the main religion it is a very unattractive belief for the rich (the "eye of the needle", "root of all evil" and "give all you have to the poor" ethos)

Prosperity gospel is a thing. It preaches the literal opposite - god rewards good behavior by prosperity. Consequently, if you are rich, you are doing the right thing.

> In the US JD Vance has been illustrating how difficult it is for a person in power to reconcile that with mainstream religious belief.

No, US JD Vance is an illustration that if you convert to most conservative openly fascist branch of Catholicism, then try to abuse Catholicism for your political project, you will get into conflict with Pope who is conservative but definitely absolutely not fascists nor racist. And pope has to respond, because conservative Catholicism was already used this way in the past with ugly results.

JD Vance does not have "mainstream religious belief". And it is quite possible to reconcile "mainstream religious belief" with power - just not the vision of power Trump and Thiel and conservatives use.

tancop 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Talking "false ideas about life and reality" like there's any way to test religious views with science. Spoiler alert, science explicitly ignores any supernatural effects because a theory where anything can happen is useless for explaining what happens most of the time. Not because it claims they don't exist.

Just say you're an atheist and move on, or say nothing because it's irrelevant to OP and you made a new account just to post this. 90% of people you meet will have zero problems with you being one. This "religion is dumb" thing just plays into stereotypes that all non religious people are annoying Redditors. It's pure self sabotage.

apercu 2 days ago | parent [-]

There definitely is a prosperity gospel in America that is increasingly influencing our politics.

throw-the-towel 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Religion contains delusion, but it also tends to contain centuries of philosophy, and a set of guidelines to living life. Irreligious people tend to keep the delusion part, and throw all the rest away.

pstuart 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yep, but that's a third rail here -- plenty of otherwise intelligent people drank the kool aid (likely by their parents).

It needs to be understood by all citizens of the United States that there is an active effort to make it into a Christo-Fascist country. The current regime is all in on this.