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nstents 11 hours ago

I'm suggesting that AI fundamentally meets a tenet of Marxist dogma, and I'm surprised a Socialist mayor hasn't taken advantage of that fact.

koof 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

i am suggesting that your interpretation of what a "need" is is wildly inaccurate

nstents 10 hours ago | parent [-]

I'd "need" to know what you see my interpretation of needs as being before I could answer better. But I'll give it a try without a dictionary.

In its most fundamental sense, a need is a requirement for life to continue and reproduce. These requirements typically involve the abilities to compete, to obtain food, to have shelter, to mate and protect the young, etc.

Isn't AI to serve needs? For example, the need to find bugs in software so somebody can compete economically and employees can meet their needs as described above? To buy food, shelter, raise children?

Quite seriously, I think this is an important underpinning of why AI is advancing, and where it's taking us. The fact that it overlaps with Marx, at least to me, is a fascinating and incredible irony, because its success is an application of the very seductive message behind Marxism.

I appreciate everyone's time in challenging this.

koof 9 hours ago | parent [-]

people still pushing "just learn to code" in 2026, almost makes me nostalgic

you seem nice, good luck out there

cactacea 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I'm suggesting that AI fundamentally meets a tenet of Marxist dogma

And why would be relevant to a democratic socialist?

nstents 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I love that question. It's a great question because it's designed to elicit avenues of attack.

I'd say that Democratic Socialism, today among the general population of the United States the term Socialism has no set definition, no real understanding of its roots, and no real concept of how it would be enacted politically in a Democratic society.

So I'm really not sure what you mean by Democratic Socialist. I think you mean as defined by Wikipedia.

If so, in short I see Marx as being a root among many to Socialism, and so on to Democratic Socialism. The dogma from Marx follows through to an application for people to obtain their "needs": "More of whatever, less expensive, and better evrything! And AI is actually Socialist, so let's do it and vote for me!!!" That kind of cynical approach.

stein1946 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> a Socialist mayor

Who is that "Socialist" mayor you speak of?

nstents 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I can't continue the thread to answer your last, more definite, question.

I used an indefinite article on purpose in order to not go to a particular person. The topic I posed was on the relationship, not on persons. So any democratic socialist mayor for that matter.

nstents 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is not a Democratic Scoialist also a Socialist these days?

stein1946 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Again, who is this "Democratic Socialist" you speak of?