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AtlanticThird 16 hours ago

Are you aware of any current country or any country throughout history that has granted the government powers like this and hasn't been abused? I think you're mistaken to blame lack of accountability and lack of public oversight. I think it's simply not possible.

tene80i 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

To some extent, the U.K. They’ve had flock-style cameras for years, and while there is of course police abuse there’s far greater accountability. Brits are more comfortable with the idea of police having those powers - but of course that’s partly to do with the fact their police don’t have guns, so are generally less terrifying.

2b3a51 14 hours ago | parent [-]

UK police officers are not routinely armed, but there armed response units, and under certain circumstances in e.g. railway stations and airports you will see pairs of officers walking about with machine guns on a regular basis.

Accountability: misuse of cctv or bodycam footage can lead to disciplinary action of various kinds including being sacked. The link below will give you an idea of the volume of formal complaints and the 'pipeline' from complaint to potential dismissal and criminal proceedings against officers;

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/police-misconduct-e...

The accountability system is 'under review' (we do this a lot, slows things down nicely and looks like action);

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/end-to-end-review...

It isn't unicorns and rainbows by any means;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66809642

pacija 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The next step would be blunt "fuck you and your constitutions and amendments, we're in charge here, we own the guns (both police and army), the media, the businesses, and we won't go away peacefully regardless of your elections". It is already happening here in Serbia which used to be a civilized country.

oh_my_goodness 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Seems clear that's begun in the US now.

piloto_ciego 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Most people don’t realize that yet here in America. The fascists are still in our OODA loop.