| ▲ | spongebobstoes 16 hours ago |
| surveillance technology is not going away. we need to mitigate the downsides what systems could be changed or created to prevent abuse of power? |
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| ▲ | Zigurd 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Anything can be made to go away. |
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| ▲ | whynotmaybe 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Maybe have something on the plate that prevents reading from certain angles? There was a ticket dismissed in Quebec a few years ago for an "unreadable plate" because the car had a bike rack hiding the plate but the ticket had the plate number on it so it was not unreadable |
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| ▲ | mohamedkoubaa 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They are being removed from hundreds of municipalities, what do you mean? |
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| ▲ | Henchman21 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I know if you douse these cameras with flammable liquids they burn up pretty well. I’m in support of the same for the people pushing these Flock cameras. Because if you’ve elevated yourself above the rest of us, well then we don’t need you anymore. Tie whomever voted for these cameras to the mast and light them the fuck up. |
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| ▲ | zapataband1 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| We need an actual democracy(not rich people's puppets). In this country almost 75% of voting population are against the war in Iran and yet most of congress supports that war. |
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| ▲ | colechristensen 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Surveillance tech very much can be and is going away in plenty of places 321 down, Dallas: https://thehill.com/policy/technology/6065838-dallas-police-... 150 down, El Paso: https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/public-safe... ALL on state roadways, Florida: https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/state/2026/09/01/whic... A dozen agencies cancelling Flock in Wisconsin https://www.fox6now.com/news/flock-camera-pushback-fond-du-l... |
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| ▲ | NetMageSCW 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | A good question to ask is if those locations are just switching to an alternative ALPR system. |
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| ▲ | matheusmoreira 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Human nature itself. |
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| ▲ | AlienRobot 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why is it not going away? |
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| ▲ | PunchyHamster 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| not installing them. Voting out anyone that does |
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| ▲ | wateralien 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Video is useful in keeping people safe. Including from the cops. It’s about remaking the system to require court permission every time they access it, process and transparency. | | |
| ▲ | eks391 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This. I don't understand why something can only be used in the wrong way. Either A. there is nothing a good person needs to hide (including cops, at least good ones), therefore it should be openly public to everyone and all usage logged and public (to catch abuse), or B. privacy is important so it should be protected, and while data is collectible, nonetheless cannot be shared without consent or a court order. And none of this fake content that companies claim you gave by walking outside, setting up your phone/account/etc after buying it and being forced to sign so you didn't just buy an expensive brick, etc. | |
| ▲ | SaucyWrong 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Hmm, I wonder if, as a plaintiff that wished to file a complaint against a police department, would the records be gone by the time I got far enough through the courts to force evidence discovery. All of the Flock-lovers I talk to love to bring up the short-lived nature of the data (7 or 30 days depending on who you talk to). | |
| ▲ | postalrat 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | No big deal is it was just video. It's really about the data that can be extracted from the video such as who you meet, when you are home or not and who is at your house, etc. all in realtime. | | | |
| ▲ | colechristensen 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Give me freedom or give me death. Police wearing body cameras has nothing to do with universal mass surveillance devices. | |
| ▲ | AlienRobot 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You are conflating extremely different things, and that is dangerous. Somehow we went from: 1. People can see and hear your in public 2. Therefore public places are not private 3. Therefore people can record you 4. Therefore it's okay to build a network of cameras that can track and query every place you have ever been The problem has always been on step 2. The assumption that "public places are not private" anymore just because everyone can record you and post it on TikTok. In reality before smartphones public places were extremely private compared to being broadcast to the entire planet. |
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| ▲ | atemerev 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not enough. Preemptively passing laws that forbid this kind of mass surveillance. Like in Switzerland and other nice places. | | |
| ▲ | NegativeK 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | Making the possession of data this either illegal or too horribly cumbersome. Flock is just an iteration, and getting rid of that brand won't fix it. And camera tracking of normal citizens is just an iteration -- not the underlying systemic issue that isn't being addressed. The EU has GDPR. At this point, I want something stronger than that. |
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